FACT: bush admits lying

"White House admits Iraq intelligence error"

Sarah Left and agencies
Tuesday July 8, 2003

The White House has conceded for the first time that the president's
assertion in the run up to war that Iraq recently had sought to buy
significant quantities of uranium from Africa was based on inaccurate
information.
In his State of the Union address to the nation in January, George
Bush repeated a claim, made in the British government's intelligence
dossier, that Saddam Hussein had attempted to acquire uranium yellow
cake from Africa.

Yesterday White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said the president's
statement was incorrect because it was based on forged documents from
the West African nation of Niger.

The Associated Press quoted Mr Fleischer as saying: "The president's
statement was based on the predicate of the yellow cake from Niger. So
given the fact that the report on the yellow cake did not turn out to
be accurate, that is reflective of the president's broader statement."

The White House had not responded to Guardian Unlimited's phone calls
by the time of publication.

The statement that the information was incorrect has a key bearing on
the US and British justification for war on Iraq. Both countries had
claimed that Saddam Hussein was attempting to build a nuclear weapons
programme that could pose a threat to American and British interests,
citing the attempted uranium purchase from Africa as proof.

The International Atomic Energy Agency confirmed in March that
documents purporting to show that Saddam Hussein had tried to acquire
uranium from Niger were forgeries. But until the White House statement
yesterday, neither the US or British governments had acknowledged that
these forged documents formed the basis of the intelligence, which had
vaguely named Africa as the source of the uranium deal.

"Knowing all that we know now, the reference to Iraq's attempt to
acquire uranium from Africa should not have been included in the State
of the Union speech," a senior Bush administration official said in a
statement quoted by the Washington Post.

Democratic representative Henry Waxman, long critical of the
Niger-Iraq connection, responded: "The White House has finally
formally conceded that the president's statement was false. That's an
important first step. But for over three months I've been asking the
president two simple questions of accountability: how did this happen
and who did it. The president owes it to the American people to
provide those answers."

The concession from the White House came as MPs continue to question
the prime minister, Tony Blair, over the validity of claims contained
in a September intelligence dossier about Iraq's weapons programmes,
including that Iraq had sought to buy yellow cake from Africa.

Downing Street has thus far failed to explain the evidence it had
relied upon for the uranium purchase claims.

Today the foreign office stressed that the evidence for the claim in
the September dossier came from a number of sources.

"We stand by our assessment in the September dossier, and we still
believe it today to be credible," said a foreign office spokesman.

But this morning Mr Blair played down the significance of the Niger
claims.

"The Niger situation is not warranted by the actual facts - there was
a historic link between Niger and Iraq, in the 1980s Iraq purchased
200 tonnes of uranium from Niger," he told the Commons liaison
committee.

"You'd think it was a fantasy invented by the security services," he
added, pointing out that Niger's main export is uranium.

Months before Downing Street published the claim, a US envoy was sent
by the CIA to check out the possible deal between Iraq and Niger. He
concluded that "it was highly doubtful any such transaction had ever
taken place".

In a piece in the New York Times on Sunday, the envoy, Joseph Wilson,
said his assessment of the Niger information was known to the CIA, the
state department, and most likely the office of the vice president
from the time of his return in March 2002.

Yet nearly a year after he had returned and briefed CIA officials, the
assertion that Saddam was trying to obtain uranium from Africa was
included in Mr Bush's State of the Union address.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...994173,00.html

On 15 Jul 2003 07:03:11 -0700, mogulah@hotmail.com (Transition Zone)
wrote:

>FACT: bush admits lying

Nope. He didn't lie.

Please state one lie GWB made here:

http://www.house.gov/appropriations_...ughtonfilm.htm




<otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a238hvok49r29e3ebdcfdlqhdmn4q8s5ci@4ax.com...
> On 15 Jul 2003 07:03:11 -0700, mogulah@hotmail.com (Transition Zone)
> wrote:
>
> >FACT: bush admits lying
>
> Nope. He didn't lie.
>
> Please state one lie GWB made here:
>
>
>

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:14:59 -0400, otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com
wrote:

>On 15 Jul 2003 07:03:11 -0700, mogulah@hotmail.com (Transition Zone)
>wrote:
>
>>FACT: bush admits lying
>
>Nope. He didn't lie.
>
>Please state one lie GWB made here:

"Weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq"

in meeting with EU, May.
>
>

"We are going to
fight them and impose our will on them and we will capture or, if
necessary, kill them until we have imposed law and order upon this
country,"
-- Viceroy Paul Bremer, explaining how America is going to 'hearts
and minds' the subjugated people of Iraq

Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
For the finest in liberal/leftist commentary,
http://www.zeppscommentaries.com

Tazmanian Weasel <zeppnospam@finestplanet.com> wrote in message news:<sm58hvsj2hkb2an2bqhhu34v845s97ckdt@4ax.com>. ..
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:14:59 -0400, otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com
> wrote:
>
> >On 15 Jul 2003 07:03:11 -0700, mogulah@hotmail.com (Transition Zone)
> >wrote:
> >
> >>FACT: bush admits lying
> >
> >Nope. He didn't lie.
> >
> >Please state one lie GWB made here:
>
> "Weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq"
>
> in meeting with EU, May.

or

"I'm the kind of person that likes to
know all the facts before I make a decision."

July 3, 2003


> >
> >
>
> "We are going to
> fight them and impose our will on them and we will capture or, if
> necessary, kill them until we have imposed law and order upon this
> country,"
> -- Viceroy Paul Bremer, explaining how America is going to 'hearts
> and minds' the subjugated people of Iraq
>
> Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
> Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
> For the finest in liberal/leftist commentary,
> http://www.zeppscommentaries.com

On 15 Jul 2003 11:39:26 -0700, pvos58@yahoo.com (Peter Vos) wrote:

>Tazmanian Weasel <zeppnospam@finestplanet.com> wrote in message news:<sm58hvsj2hkb2an2bqhhu34v845s97ckdt@4ax.com>. ..
>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:14:59 -0400, otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 15 Jul 2003 07:03:11 -0700, mogulah@hotmail.com (Transition Zone)
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>FACT: bush admits lying
>> >
>> >Nope. He didn't lie.
>> >
>> >Please state one lie GWB made here:
>>
>> "Weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq"
>>
>> in meeting with EU, May.
>
>or
>
>"I'm the kind of person that likes to
>know all the facts before I make a decision."
>
>July 3, 2003
>
Funny,

What President Bush actually said was *The British government has
learned* [emphasis added] that Saddam Hussein recently sought
significant quantities of uranium from Africa." But for some strange
reason, the DNC left out that whole "British government" part. Gee,
that changes the entire nature of the president's statement. You don't
think the DNC left it out on purpose, do you?

Well..
Here is a lie he told YESTERDAY!
He told it in defense of the lie he told about the nuke claim!!!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn....html?nav=hpto
p_ts

"Defending the broader decision to go to war with Iraq, the president said
the decision was made after he gave Saddam Hussein "a chance to allow the
inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them in." "

....

"The president's assertion that the war began because Iraq did not admit
inspectors appeared to contradict the events leading up to war this spring:
Hussein had, in fact, admitted the inspectors and Bush had opposed extending
their work because he did not believe them effective."


So....

Here is a specific lie that Bush told yesterday.
Another in a long line of lies.

I don't hear any crickets...

I do hear the shrill scream of people who disrespect their fellow concerned
citizens to cover for a politician with nothing but a record of bankrupt
businesses, ties to crooks, theft of citizen property, and lies.

Now that you have specifically heard a lie that Bush told yesterday, will
you rethink you position, or will you continue to be a traitor to America?

If Bush is a member of a party you support, it is your duty to make sure he
does not dishonor your party.

Personally, I don't care for "parties", "groups" or the like.
The only "group" I support is the group that is composed of all the people
of the United States of America.

It is not about Repub or Dem.
It is about right, wrong, and logic.

Is this something a person like you can understand?

Fifty1Ford


<otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uic8hvc90iq8q33ul7jff318a3g4ot53ld@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:45:40 GMT, "jjavaman" <jjavaman@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >yo otis,are u special needs? brain dead? or just plain stupid? Open your
> >eyes,get your fucking head outta your ass and wake up
> ><otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> LOL Lots of name calling!
> So, state specifically what lie GWB made!
>
> (sounds of crickets...)
>
>
>
> >news:a238hvok49r29e3ebdcfdlqhdmn4q8s5ci@4ax.com.. .
> >> On 15 Jul 2003 07:03:11 -0700, mogulah@hotmail.com (Transition Zone)
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >FACT: bush admits lying
> >>
> >> Nope. He didn't lie.
> >>
> >> Please state one lie GWB made here:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

Tazmanian Weasel <zeppnospam@finestplanet.com> wrote in message news:<sm58hvsj2hkb2an2bqhhu34v845s97ckdt@4ax.com>. ..
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:14:59 -0400, otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com
> wrote:
>
> >On 15 Jul 2003 07:03:11 -0700, mogulah@hotmail.com (Transition Zone)
> >wrote:
> >
> >>FACT: bush admits lying
> >
> >Nope. He didn't lie.
> >
> >Please state one lie GWB made here:
>
> "Weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq"
>
> in meeting with EU, May.
> >

No lie by Bush. Democrats lying about Bush telling the truth. Orwell
would be proud of the Dems. Keep trying Democrats.


> Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!

3,000 + dead on 9-11 as Clinton did nothing about Al Qeada after SIX
BOMBINGS! The Sudan offered to turn over Bin Laden twice & Clinton
said No thansk. So if you are dead after 9-11 - than a liberal named
Clinton.

> Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.

Poor are off the tax rolls thanks to Republicans.

> For the finest in liberal/leftist commentary,
> http://www.zeppscommentaries.com

Delusional leftwing ranting and Joe Stalin boot licking.

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:51:34 -0400, otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com wrote:
>When the Democratic National Committee sends out a press release about
>lying, I snap to. It's like getting a stock tip from Martha Stewart or
>advice on race relations from Dusty Baker.

How so, POOPUS?

Considering that the most criminal, lying, self-serving, racist, homophobic, hypcritical
administrations since the mid-50's were ALL republican and conservative.

You're just not a real bright chump are you, Poopus Dumbwood?

Bet you haven't even considered that had the Raygun/shrub been investigated to the extent
that was unleashed (without any credible evidence) against Clinton, Your drooling asshole
would still be rusting the bars on his jail cell with his slobber.





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Administration is more corrupt than any recent administration
are ludicrous when compared to the actual record of corruption
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charges against Clinton result from goings-on in Arkansas long
before he became President. With Reagan, scandals occured while
he was President. Pulitzer-prize winning journalist Haynes
Johnson's book, "Sleep-Walking Through History: America in
the Reagan Years" (1991, Doubleday), chronicles the U.S.'s
fall from dominant world power to struggling debtor nation
during the Reagan years. Johnson says "two types of problems
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"By the end of his term, 138 administration officials had
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involved, the record of his administration was the
worst ever." (P. 184).

"Reagan's customary response to instances of wrongdoing by aides
was to criticize those who brought the charges or to blame the
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formed by the connection between money and politics. What
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and agencies,

"Fifty1Ford" <Fifty1Ford@Speed-Racer.com> wrote in message
news:vh8kra9r5kco5f@corp.supernews.com...
> Well..
> Here is a lie he told YESTERDAY!
> He told it in defense of the lie he told about the nuke claim!!!!
>
>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn....html?nav=hpto
> p_ts
>
> "Defending the broader decision to go to war with Iraq, the president said
> the decision was made after he gave Saddam Hussein "a chance to allow the
> inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them in." "
>
> ...
>
> "The president's assertion that the war began because Iraq did not admit
> inspectors appeared to contradict the events leading up to war this
spring:
> Hussein had, in fact, admitted the inspectors and Bush had opposed
extending
> their work because he did not believe them effective."
>
>
> So....
>
> Here is a specific lie that Bush told yesterday.
> Another in a long line of lies.
>
> I don't hear any crickets...
>
> I do hear the shrill scream of people who disrespect their fellow
concerned
> citizens to cover for a politician with nothing but a record of bankrupt
> businesses, ties to crooks, theft of citizen property, and lies.
>
> Now that you have specifically heard a lie that Bush told yesterday, will
> you rethink you position, or will you continue to be a traitor to America?
>
> If Bush is a member of a party you support, it is your duty to make sure
he
> does not dishonor your party.
>
> Personally, I don't care for "parties", "groups" or the like.
> The only "group" I support is the group that is composed of all the people
> of the United States of America.
>
> It is not about Repub or Dem.
> It is about right, wrong, and logic.
>
> Is this something a person like you can understand?
>
> Fifty1Ford
>
>
> <otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uic8hvc90iq8q33ul7jff318a3g4ot53ld@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:45:40 GMT, "jjavaman" <jjavaman@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >yo otis,are u special needs? brain dead? or just plain stupid? Open
your
> > >eyes,get your fucking head outta your ass and wake up
> > ><otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > LOL Lots of name calling!
> > So, state specifically what lie GWB made!
> >
> > (sounds of crickets...)
> >
> >


Funny..
I post a lie and all I get from YOU are (sounds of crickets).

Wow, I am just amazed at your ability to ignore the truth.

Fifty1Ford

> >
> > >news:a238hvok49r29e3ebdcfdlqhdmn4q8s5ci@4ax.com.. .
> > >> On 15 Jul 2003 07:03:11 -0700, mogulah@hotmail.com (Transition Zone)
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >FACT: bush admits lying
> > >>
> > >> Nope. He didn't lie.
> > >>
> > >> Please state one lie GWB made here:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
>
>