"Rumsfeld, in a grueling day of testimony, agreed with senators that a
greater NATO role in Iraq made sense, and said that he would even
support troop contributions from France and Germany despite the bitter
split over their opposition to the war.

Yet, General Tommy Franks, the departing head of the U.S. Central
Command, indicated at the same hearing that no substantial reductions in
the U.S. force level were likely for the 'foreseeable future'".
(http://www.iht.com/articles/101740.html)

Iraq $3.9b/month "revised upward..."
Afghan $0.9b/month "...even in the course of the day"
===========
$4.8b/month

Let's see if France and Germany can be a touch more business-like and
require a plan and a budget.

"B J Foster" <bjfoster@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3F0DF270.7080906@yahoo.com...
> "Rumsfeld, in a grueling day of testimony, agreed with senators that a
> greater NATO role in Iraq made sense, and said that he would even
> support troop contributions from France and Germany despite the bitter
> split over their opposition to the war.

Let's hope France and Germany tell Rummy to go **** himself.


--

----

Joe S.

>
> Yet, General Tommy Franks, the departing head of the U.S. Central
> Command, indicated at the same hearing that no substantial reductions in
> the U.S. force level were likely for the 'foreseeable future'".
> (http://www.iht.com/articles/101740.html)
>
> Iraq $3.9b/month "revised upward..."
> Afghan $0.9b/month "...even in the course of the day"
> ===========
> $4.8b/month
>
> Let's see if France and Germany can be a touch more business-like and
> require a plan and a budget.
>

Rod Speed wrote:
> B J Foster <bjfoster@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:3F0DF270.7080906@yahoo.com...
>
>
>>"Rumsfeld, in a grueling day of testimony, agreed with senators
>>that a greater NATO role in Iraq made sense, and said that he
>>would even support troop contributions from France and
>>Germany despite the bitter split over their opposition to the war.
>
>
>>Yet, General Tommy Franks, the departing head of the U.S. Central
>>Command, indicated at the same hearing that no substantial reductions
>>in the U.S. force level were likely for the 'foreseeable future'".
>>(http://www.iht.com/articles/101740.html)
>
>
>>Iraq $3.9b/month "revised upward..."
>>Afghan $0.9b/month "...even in the course of the day"
>> ===========
>> $4.8b/month
>
>
>>Let's see if France and Germany can be a touch
>>more business-like and require a plan and a budget.
>
>
> Only pig ignorant posturing fools would ever be stupid enough to claim
> that thats even possible with an occupation and interim administration.
>
> Dont give up the day wank, child. Not only wont you be getting the
> nod to replace McFarlane any time soon, the yanks wont be putting
> you in charge of running either country any time soon either.
>
> Cant imagine why for the life of me.
>
>

My 3-year old niece can manage her pocket money better than that

B J Foster wrote:

(snip)
> On Monday, the Union's auditing office said it found no 'coherent
> explanation' for the way the executive spent agricultural export
> subsidies, which amount to several billion euros a year".
> (http://www.iht.com/articles/102326.html)
(snip)


Dept of Agriculture is one of the loosely monitored
bureaucracies also used for clandestine central
government activities allowing money to be funneled into
"black projects" when government does not want a money trail...
getting audited may be a real party pooper.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:16:25 +1000, B J Foster <bjfoster@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>"The European Union's executive arm, saying that it had discovered
>'systemic management weaknesses and irregularities' at the Union's
>statistics agency, on Wednesday replaced the director and impounded
>thousands of documents.
>...
>On Monday, the Union's auditing office said it found no 'coherent
>explanation' for the way the executive spent agricultural export
>subsidies, which amount to several billion euros a year".
>(http://www.iht.com/articles/102326.html)
>
>Maybe Rumsfeld's onto something.

Fail to see a connection.
Are you comparing apples and pears?
or should I be more appropiate in saying:
are you comparing butter and canons? ;-)

regards Xylord

Xylord wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:16:25 +1000, B J Foster <bjfoster@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>"The European Union's executive arm, saying that it had discovered
>>'systemic management weaknesses and irregularities' at the Union's
>>statistics agency, on Wednesday replaced the director and impounded
>>thousands of documents.
>>...
>>On Monday, the Union's auditing office said it found no 'coherent
>>explanation' for the way the executive spent agricultural export
>>subsidies, which amount to several billion euros a year".
>>(http://www.iht.com/articles/102326.html)
>>
>>Maybe Rumsfeld's onto something.
>
>
> Fail to see a connection.
> Are you comparing apples and pears?
> or should I be more appropiate in saying:
> are you comparing butter and canons? ;-)
>
> regards Xylord
>

I said: "Let's see if France and Germany can be a touch more
business-like and require a plan and a budget"...

....then I saw the article on EU accounting. The whole basis of the CAP
is about as moronic as invading Iraq ($600b) instead of simply putting a
price on Saddam's head ($0.025b) and the effect on developing countries
is a lot worse. It's bad enough that they destroy whole economies and
induce poverty through the CAP system but they can't even COUNT it
properly. The link is tenous, I admit. Call it "incalculable damage"

"B J Foster" <bjfoster@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3F0E0FFA.3000703@yahoo.com...
>
>
> Rod Speed wrote:
> > B J Foster <bjfoster@yahoo.com> wrote in
> > message news:3F0DF270.7080906@yahoo.com...
> >
> >
> >>"Rumsfeld, in a grueling day of testimony, agreed with senators
> >>that a greater NATO role in Iraq made sense, and said that he
> >>would even support troop contributions from France and
> >>Germany despite the bitter split over their opposition to the war.
> >
> >
> >>Yet, General Tommy Franks, the departing head of the U.S. Central
> >>Command, indicated at the same hearing that no substantial reductions
> >>in the U.S. force level were likely for the 'foreseeable future'".
> >>(http://www.iht.com/articles/101740.html)
> >
> >
> >>Iraq $3.9b/month "revised upward..."
> >>Afghan $0.9b/month "...even in the course of the day"
> >> ===========
> >> $4.8b/month
> >
> >
> >>Let's see if France and Germany can be a touch
> >>more business-like and require a plan and a budget.
> >
> >
> > Only pig ignorant posturing fools would ever be stupid enough to claim
> > that thats even possible with an occupation and interim administration.
> >
> > Dont give up the day wank, child. Not only wont you be getting the
> > nod to replace McFarlane any time soon, the yanks wont be putting
> > you in charge of running either country any time soon either.
> >
> > Cant imagine why for the life of me.

> My 3-year old niece can manage her pocket money better than that

Pathetic little pig ignorant posturing fool cant even manage its own lines.

Dont give up the day wank, child. Not only wont you be getting the
nod to replace McFarlane any time soon, the yanks wont be putting
you in charge of running either country any time soon either.

Cant imagine why for the life of me.

B J Foster wrote:
>
>
> Xylord wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:16:25 +1000, B J Foster <bjfoster@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "The European Union's executive arm, saying that it had discovered
>>> 'systemic management weaknesses and irregularities' at the Union's
>>> statistics agency, on Wednesday replaced the director and impounded
>>> thousands of documents.
>>> ...
>>> On Monday, the Union's auditing office said it found no 'coherent
>>> explanation' for the way the executive spent agricultural export
>>> subsidies, which amount to several billion euros a year".
>>> (http://www.iht.com/articles/102326.html)
>>>
>>> Maybe Rumsfeld's onto something.
>>
>>
>>
>> Fail to see a connection.
>> Are you comparing apples and pears?
>> or should I be more appropiate in saying:
>> are you comparing butter and canons? ;-)
>>
>> regards Xylord
>>
>
> I said: "Let's see if France and Germany can be a touch more
> business-like and require a plan and a budget"...
>
> ...then I saw the article on EU accounting. The whole basis of the CAP
> is about as moronic as invading Iraq ($600b)

Correction: $60b (so far...)

> instead of simply putting a
> price on Saddam's head ($0.025b) and the effect on developing countries
> is a lot worse. It's bad enough that they destroy whole economies and
> induce poverty through the CAP system but they can't even COUNT it
> properly. The link is tenous, I admit. Call it "incalculable damage"
>

"In the period from 2001 to 2002, America's 25,000 cotton farmers
received more in subsidies — some $3 billion — than the entire economic
output of Burkina Faso, where two million people depend on cotton.
Further, United States subsidies are concentrated on just 10 percent of
its cotton farmers. Thus, the payments to about 2,500 relatively
well-off farmers has the unintended but nevertheless real effect of
impoverishing some 10 million rural poor people in West and Central Africa".
(http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/11/op...11CAMP.html?th)

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