Right or Wrong <whats_an_email_address> allegedly said:

> Dems are trying to attack President Bush intelligence failures related
> to Niger-Iraq nuclear materials. Here is why Democrats are really
> calling themselves assholes:
>
> - According to Tony Blair, a liberal, there is much more evidence than
> only the alleged forged letter that Saddam was trying to buy nuclear
> materials from Niger

Sure! He *says* that....but hasn't produced any of it. Why not? Because Tony
Blair is lying, too. People have known for years Tony Blair is a
liar....so there are no surprises there.

> - The alleged intelligence short fall comes from the CIA, led by
> George Tenet, a Clinton-selected director.

You need to look at the detail, though.

Left to his own devices, Tenet told the Senate in a letter (October 2002)
that Iraq was no threat. But with Rumsfeld leaning on him after that, he
said Iraq WAS a threat. Yet he told them not to use the nuke info in the
october speech - but now claims he approved in the January speech. Why
would he do that?

he's being made the fall-guy...and his reward for taking the blame is he
gets to keep his job. No one is asking him to resign. Becasue they know he
didn't approve it without being TOLD to approve it.

Tenet has been playing a careful game - trying to preserve his own position
and yet comply with the demands of his political masters.

All fingers point at Rumsfeld and Bush.

> So the bottom line is that instead of really proving Bush did anything

Oh Bush lied alright. No doubt about that.

IF you have been paying attention these past months, it is painfully
obvious.

Bottom is: Bush said before the invasion - for months - that he had proof.

Now? He has no proof at all. Where is it? Even with 150,000 troops in iraq
he STILL has nothing at all.

That's a lie in anyone's book.

--
Steve
--
"Naturally, the common people don't want war;
neither in Russia nor in England nor in America,
nor for that matter in Germany.
That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders
of the country who determine the policy and
it is always a simple matter to drag the people
along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist
dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist
dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them
they are being attacked and denounce the
pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing
the country to danger. It works the same way
in any country."
- Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall

JC Martin allegedly said:

> But Bush said today the reason we invaded Iraq was because Sadam wouldn't
> let UN inspectors in. Either Bush is delusional or he thinks the public
> is
> dumber than he is.

Both are true.

Too many people just don't want to believe the President lied to them over
and over and got their kids killed for no good reason.

It's called 'cognitive dissonance'.

So they watch Fox News and don't have to face up to the truth.

--
Steve

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 00:06:19 -0400, Right or Wrong
<whats_an_email_address> wrote:

>Dems are trying to attack President Bush intelligence failures related
>to Niger-Iraq nuclear materials. Here is why Democrats are really
>calling themselves assholes:
>
>- According to Tony Blair, a liberal, there is much more evidence than
>only the alleged forged letter that Saddam was trying to buy nuclear
>materials from Niger
>
>- The alleged intelligence short fall comes from the CIA, led by
>George Tenet, a Clinton-selected director.
>
>So the bottom line is that instead of really proving Bush did anything
>wrong with their childish accusations, they are really calling
>themselves assholes, since it was a liberal (same as Democrat) who
>back the Iraq-Niger connection and a Democrat appointed CIA head that
>were responsible for the intelligence weakness. That is the same thing
>as saying it is all Democrats' fault. That is the same thing as
>Democrats calling themselves assholes.
>
>
So we have Bush and Blair both saying there was more than the forged
letter, yet neither of them is saying what any of those things are. Oh
wait, yes, we have heard how Saddam wouldn't allow the weapon
inspectors in to look for womd. But wait another minute. Didn't Bush
have to order them out of Iraq so he could begin bombing? Oh my,
sounds like another CONservative lie doesn't it. And, oh yes, the
aluminum tubes. But wait again, we've also learned that they weren't
the right type to be used with nuclear weapons, unless he was going to
launch a squadron of weather balloons at us. Oh, but that can't be the
case could it, because we were all told Saddam could attack us within
45 minutes, so forget the weather balloons.
Damn, it's looking more and more like Bush and Blair are both full of
shit, and you're the asshole for supporting their bullshit.




Just think, the asshole that runs this country said
in one of his drunken stupors.....

"You fucking son of a *****. I saw what you wrote.
We're not going to forget this."
A drunken George W., storming into a Mexican diner
in Dallas, and approaching Al Hunt (Wall Street Journal editor)
.. Al was dining with his wife and 4 year old son,
when Dubya interrupted cursing for several minutes
in front of everyone.

-----------------------------------------------------
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."

--Teddy Roosevelt (Kansas City Star, 7 May 1918)

"JC Martin" <jcmartin@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:9w4Ra.2179$dk4.113809@typhoon.sonic.net...
> But Bush said today the reason we invaded Iraq was because Sadam wouldn't
> let UN inspectors in. Either Bush is delusional or he thinks the public
is
> dumber than he is.
>
At least half of the voting public are as dumb or dumber than he, they voted
for him. My bet is they don't remember, requires thought. Just turn on
the TV, these brilliant people are numbing themselves with whatever lame
"reality" show is on. Note to the US: Reality is what happens when you turn
the TV off. (unless you just mosey over to the Computer) Nope, unless the
economy really goes bad (a real possibility) George will be lying right on
until 2008.

> --
> JC Martin
>
>
>
> "Right or Wrong" <whats_an_email_address> wrote in message
> news:v2j9hvk01mbijd9dnjjtrjfiii7eitn266@4ax.com...
> > Dems are trying to attack President Bush intelligence failures related
> > to Niger-Iraq nuclear materials. Here is why Democrats are really
> > calling themselves assholes:
> >
> > - According to Tony Blair, a liberal, there is much more evidence than
> > only the alleged forged letter that Saddam was trying to buy nuclear
> > materials from Niger
> >
> > - The alleged intelligence short fall comes from the CIA, led by
> > George Tenet, a Clinton-selected director.
> >
> > So the bottom line is that instead of really proving Bush did anything
> > wrong with their childish accusations, they are really calling
> > themselves assholes, since it was a liberal (same as Democrat) who
> > back the Iraq-Niger connection and a Democrat appointed CIA head that
> > were responsible for the intelligence weakness. That is the same thing
> > as saying it is all Democrats' fault. That is the same thing as
> > Democrats calling themselves assholes.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

"Right or Wrong" <whats_an_email_address> wrote in message
news:v2j9hvk01mbijd9dnjjtrjfiii7eitn266@4ax.com...
> Dems are trying to attack President Bush intelligence failures related
> to Niger-Iraq nuclear materials. Here is why Democrats are really
> calling themselves assholes:
>
> - According to Tony Blair, a liberal, there is much more evidence than
> only the alleged forged letter that Saddam was trying to buy nuclear
> materials from Niger
>
> - The alleged intelligence short fall comes from the CIA, led by
> George Tenet, a Clinton-selected director.
>
> So the bottom line is that instead of really proving Bush did anything
> wrong with their childish accusations, they are really calling
> themselves assholes, since it was a liberal (same as Democrat) who
> back the Iraq-Niger connection and a Democrat appointed CIA head that
> were responsible for the intelligence weakness. That is the same thing
> as saying it is all Democrats' fault. That is the same thing as
> Democrats calling themselves assholes.


They do it all the time to themselves. Usually they just can't come up with
the correct spelling for "asshole", that's how stupid they are.

They haven't been able to win the race for the House since 1992, which is
now over a decade ago.

"JC Martin" <jcmartin@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:9w4Ra.2179$dk4.113809@typhoon.sonic.net...
> But Bush said today the reason we invaded Iraq was because Sadam wouldn't
> let UN inspectors in.


That was one of the reasons, yes.

America can't help it that you Deluded Democrats continue to *imagine* that
there was "only one reason" America went to war against that country in 1998
and again in 2003. That's YOUR limited mental scope, not America's.

"Steve" <steve@nospam4me.org> wrote in message
news:vF4Ra.5134$9f7.604990@news02.tsnz.net...
> Right or Wrong <whats_an_email_address> allegedly said:
>
> > Dems are trying to attack President Bush intelligence failures related
> > to Niger-Iraq nuclear materials. Here is why Democrats are really
> > calling themselves assholes:
> >
> > - According to Tony Blair, a liberal, there is much more evidence than
> > only the alleged forged letter that Saddam was trying to buy nuclear
> > materials from Niger
>
> Sure! He *says* that....but hasn't produced any of it. Why not? Because
Tony
> Blair is lying, too.


Let's see now, according to you Democrats, we've got "dumb" people voting to
have a Republican President, we've got "dumb" people voting to have the GOP
control the Senate, and we've had "dumb" people voting to keep the Democrats
from winning the race for the House ever since 1992, which was the last time
the "smart" Democrats won that branch of government.

In addition, according to you Democrats, we've got a President who is a
"moron" and a "liar", we've got the British Intelligence service which is
all screwed up, and we've got England led by a liberal who is also "a liar".

It must be very, very, very frustrating to be a Democrat these days. It
seems the whole world is turning against you, doesn't it!

"Laughing at Bush" <BushSucks@Bigtime.com> wrote in message
news:k4r9hv07kv0jdmvasp31vtq19vc1rgi829@4ax.com...
> "You fucking son of a *****. I saw what you wrote.
> We're not going to forget this."
> A drunken George W., storming into a Mexican diner
> in Dallas, and approaching Al Hunt (Wall Street Journal editor)
> . Al was dining with his wife and 4 year old son,
> when Dubya interrupted cursing for several minutes
> in front of everyone.


Well, we'll give you Democrats one thing - you may not be able to win
elections any more, but you can sure show creativity at times when you make
up your lies! That was one of the more amusing Tall Tales we've heard you
hate-filled Democrats spew in these newsgroups.....