christ@saeweb.com (Chris) wrote in
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> Michael Nash <nashmj@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<Xns93B59073B23D6nashmjhotmailcom@206.127.4.1 1>...
>
>> No, I really don't know a lot about Canibus. I can only judge the
>> guy based on what I've read of his lyrics, which I would assume are a
>> reflection of what he thinks, taken in the context of the fact that
>> the guy enlisted in the military. If these are in fact somebody
>> else's lyrics and a misrepresentation of his true beliefs and
>> feelings, then I'm obviously calling the wrong guy a homicidal bigot.
>
> As I've stated, they are not HIS lyrics, but lyrics someone else put
> on one of his tracks. Here's something more along the lines of
> Canibus:
>
> In the beginning I discovered word play,
> I experimented with some syllables from the 1st to the 3rd day,
> On the 4th I searched for the words to say,
> How to compress complex verbiage in the least amount of space,
> I was perfect at it and mastered the tactic,
> On the 5th day I decided I would combine you with mathematics,
> On the 6th day I became a fanatic, and I couldn't kick the habit,
> I would just look in the mirror and practice,
> On the 7th cycle I had to take the day off,
> I was exhausted, I guessed it would never pay off,
> But if it happened to him, it could happen to me,
> And if it happened to me, it was destined to be

Now that's a lot better. Okay, so from what you're saying, the
genocidal bigot is someone else, which speaks better for Canibus from my
point of view (though I would still take issue with Canibus allowing
lyrics like the previous ones being put on one of his tracks).

>> This really has nothing to do with the idea that Canibus is a
>> "street- thug rapper."
>
> Are you saying that Canibus is a "street-thug rapper" or saying that
> none of this points to that. If you're saying he is, then you're just
> generalizing because you've never heard his stuff and if you had, you
> would know that's NOT the case with him. Actually, he's pretty much
> been shunned by the industry because his content is not what everyone
> else deals with so the average Joe finds it un-interesting. They say
> you should not have to pay attention to lyrics to understand him.

Well, I'll apologize because I could have done a much better job of
phrasing myself. I was trying to say that my problem with him had
nothing to do with the question of whether he is a "street-thug rapper"
or not, which I didn't really consider relevant to the issue I took with
the lyrics that were posted. I have no familiarity with his music at
all other than what's been posted in this thread, so I couldn't possibly
speak with any authority about which genre he falls under. And since
you've pointed out that the lyrics are someone else's, my condemnation
was misdirected at the wrong person anyway, so...

In any event, if the lyrics you posted above are indicative of the rest
of his work, he's definitely not a "street-thug rapper," which is
probably one of the reasons he's shunned by the music industry - they're
looking for people who are cut from the same old cookie cutters. I
imagine the average listener would probably find guys like Canibus more
interesting if they were given a wider exposure to their music, but
unfortunately the recording industry prefers to direct most of their
marketing effort toward the shit that they can churn out in mass
quantities...

--
Michael Nash - aa # 1651

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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
--Teddy Roosevelt (Kansas City Star, 7 May 1918)

"The Three Branches of Government: Money, Television, and Bullshit"
--P. J. O'Rourke

Michael Nash <nashmj@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<Xns93B991BCD1427nashmjhotmailcom@206.127.4.1 1>...

> Well, I'll apologize because I could have done a much better job of
> phrasing myself. I was trying to say that my problem with him had
> nothing to do with the question of whether he is a "street-thug rapper"
> or not, which I didn't really consider relevant to the issue I took with
> the lyrics that were posted. I have no familiarity with his music at
> all other than what's been posted in this thread, so I couldn't possibly
> speak with any authority about which genre he falls under. And since
> you've pointed out that the lyrics are someone else's, my condemnation
> was misdirected at the wrong person anyway, so...
>
> In any event, if the lyrics you posted above are indicative of the rest
> of his work, he's definitely not a "street-thug rapper," which is
> probably one of the reasons he's shunned by the music industry - they're
> looking for people who are cut from the same old cookie cutters. I
> imagine the average listener would probably find guys like Canibus more
> interesting if they were given a wider exposure to their music, but
> unfortunately the recording industry prefers to direct most of their
> marketing effort toward the shit that they can churn out in mass
> quantities...
>

Good post. Even though you don't seem to be in the hip-hop scene, you
do seem to know how it is. If you're different, you're an outcast...

> I
> imagine the average listener would probably find guys like Canibus more
> interesting if they were given a wider exposure to their music, but
> unfortunately the recording industry prefers to direct most of their
> marketing effort toward the shit that they can churn out in mass
> quantities...

One line that sums this up came from Canibus:

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The auditory Pavlovian conditioning is so sickening
==========================

If you ever have a free moment, check out his website. You might be
shocked that a rapper can actually touch on numerous subjects such as
Super-String theories, Claude Shannon's "A Mathematical Theory of
Communication", T Tauri Component Sb and many other wildly varied
topics.

The funny thing is, people say he's a one trick pony. I guess
constantly talking about women (preferably known as bitches in thug
vernacular) and clubs means you're varied, while the other subjects I
mentioned mean you stick to one topic.

The URL is: http://micclub.net

Have a nice day. No, have a nice life...