rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bethan$mul$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
> Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
> >"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
> >> osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >it is clearly taught in the Bible that murder - the unjustified
> >> >killing of a human being - is wrong (Exod. 20:13).
> >>
> >> But abortion isn't murder and never has been murder. Indeed the Bible
> >> even commands abortion as a test for infedility in Numbers 5.
> >> Further, Exodus says that the punishment for smiting ones parents is
> >> death.
> >
> >Ray, believe me, you are the last one I would ever ask advice or opinions on
> >when it comes to the bible. You are not even worthy to discuss topics
> >pertaining to the bible.
>
> Unlike you who is in favor of wars that kill thousands of innocent
> people and who lies about people regularly.


I really don't care what you think. I have told you before that is
not true, but if you insist, then go right ahead. If that is what
floats your boat, to have to make things up then better you than me.

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
>rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bethan$mul$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
>> Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
>> >"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
>> >> osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >it is clearly taught in the Bible that murder - the unjustified
>> >> >killing of a human being - is wrong (Exod. 20:13).
>> >>
>> >> But abortion isn't murder and never has been murder. Indeed the Bible
>> >> even commands abortion as a test for infedility in Numbers 5.
>> >> Further, Exodus says that the punishment for smiting ones parents is
>> >> death.
>> >
>> >Ray, believe me, you are the last one I would ever ask advice or opinions on
>> >when it comes to the bible. You are not even worthy to discuss topics
>> >pertaining to the bible.
>>
>> Unlike you who is in favor of wars that kill thousands of innocent
>> people and who lies about people regularly.
>
>I really don't care what you think.

That's your problem. You're such a stupid asshole that you don't care
about anything other than your own ego. you don't care about people,
you don't care about the truth.

> I have told you before that is
>not true,

But you're a liar. You have said repeatedly that you support a war
that has killed thousands of people, and you have insisted repeatedly
that supporting the choice means supporting the outcome. According to
what you have insisted many, many times, you must be in favor of
killing thousands of innocent people.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bf00vq$vdu$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
> osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
> >rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bethan$mul$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
> >> Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
> >> >"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
> >> >> osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> >it is clearly taught in the Bible that murder - the unjustified
> >> >> >killing of a human being - is wrong (Exod. 20:13).
> >> >>
> >> >> But abortion isn't murder and never has been murder. Indeed the Bible
> >> >> even commands abortion as a test for infedility in Numbers 5.
> >> >> Further, Exodus says that the punishment for smiting ones parents is
> >> >> death.
> >> >
> >> >Ray, believe me, you are the last one I would ever ask advice or opinions on
> >> >when it comes to the bible. You are not even worthy to discuss topics
> >> >pertaining to the bible.
> >>
> >> Unlike you who is in favor of wars that kill thousands of innocent
> >> people and who lies about people regularly.
> >
> >I really don't care what you think.
>
> That's your problem. You're such a stupid asshole that you don't care
> about anything other than your own ego. you don't care about people,
> you don't care about the truth.
>
> > I have told you before that is
> >not true,
>
> But you're a liar. You have said repeatedly that you support a war
> that has killed thousands of people, and you have insisted repeatedly
> that supporting the choice means supporting the outcome. According to
> what you have insisted many, many times, you must be in favor of
> killing thousands of innocent people.


Have a nice life

The Supreme Court says 'No' to the Sex Police
Bill O'Reilly Talking Point

<snippet>
....
As we predicted last December, the Supreme Court struck down the Texas
sodomy law, six this three, basically saying Americans have a right to
privacy and the law has no business invading a person's bedroom.

A few weeks ago, a billoreilly.com poll overwhelmingly showed that
Americans don't want a sex police. Now we posted this question on
billoreilly.com. Was the Supreme Court ruling striking down the Texas
sodomy law correct? Yes or no?

Now I believe it was because the Fourth Amendment clearly states that
"the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall
not be violated."

Consenting adults in the privacy of their homes should not have sexual
activity monitored. And that's what the court decided today.

In dissent, Clarence Thomas actually said he finds no general right
of privacy in the Constitution. Wow. Justice Scalia also dissented,
but based his arguments on history and states rights. Said Scalia,
"sodomy was a criminal offense at common law and was forbidden by the
laws of the original 13 states when they ratified the Bill of Rights."
Scalia when on to opine, "Let me be clear that I have nothing against
homosexuals, or any other group, promoting their agenda through normal
democratic means. I would no more require a state to criminalize
homosexual acts than I would forbid it to do so."

But it is not the homosexual act that's in play. If you do any sexual
act in public, you're breaking the law. It is the right of citizens
to engage in personal behavior in private that the court was
considering.

Scalia is right that early on in America, many perceived sins were
turned into laws by the States. That's why prostitution is illegal.
But the Constitution clearly states that the violation of privacy that
the Texas sodomy law entails, that is arresting consenting adults in a
private residence for having sex, is not allowed.

So then, why do we need the sex police anyway? We need to police the
borders, not liberace. But, and here comes the no spin, this ruling
should not give militant gays the right to flaunt their alternative
lifestyle in the faces of American children.

Most American homosexuals are responsible, good people, but as with
any group, the fanatics flaunt their lifestyle, demanding universal
approval. And that's not going to happen. Americans have a perfect
right to disapprove of homosexuality and consider it immoral. That is
freedom of thought and in some cases, religion.

Talking Points continues to advise all Americans to shut up about your
sexual preference. It's nobody's business. And now the Supreme Court
agrees.
....
<snippet end>

Boy, O'Reilly sure does like to tell people to shut up.

DJ

--

But, and here comes the no spin, this ruling
> should not give militant gays the right to flaunt their alternative
> lifestyle in the faces of American children.
>
> Most American homosexuals are responsible, good people, but as with
> any group, the fanatics flaunt their lifestyle, demanding universal
> approval. And that's not going to happen. Americans have a perfect
> right to disapprove of homosexuality and consider it immoral. That is
> freedom of thought and in some cases, religion.
>
Talk about not getting it. MOST men love sodomy, including straight men.
I'm so tired of this being labeled a "gay" thing. Sodomy is in every single
straight porn movie you can find.

In article <bf1rkc$3bd@dispatch.concentric.net>, "Kristy" <kristy@nospam.com> wrote:
>But, and here comes the no spin, this ruling
>> should not give militant gays the right to flaunt their alternative
>> lifestyle in the faces of American children.
>>
>> Most American homosexuals are responsible, good people, but as with
>> any group, the fanatics flaunt their lifestyle, demanding universal
>> approval. And that's not going to happen. Americans have a perfect
>> right to disapprove of homosexuality and consider it immoral. That is
>> freedom of thought and in some cases, religion.
>>
>Talk about not getting it. MOST men love sodomy, including straight men.
>I'm so tired of this being labeled a "gay" thing. Sodomy is in every single
>straight porn movie you can find.

I just keep wondering why Christian conservatives are so interested with
what goes on in their neighbor's bedroom? What perversity prompts them to
want to peek in other people's bedroom windows?