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[1] Posted by Psalm 110 07-09-2003, 09:03 PM |
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DISSIPATIVE STRUCTURE A system that exits far from thermodynamic equilibrium (see thermodynamics), hence efficiently dissipates the heat generated to sustain it, and has the capacity of changing to higher levels of orderliness (see self-organization). According to Prigogine, systems contain subsystems that continuously fluctuate. At times a single fluctuation or a combination of them may become so magnified by possible feedback, that it shatters the preexisting organization. At such revolutionary moments or "bifurcation points", it is impossible to determine in advance whether the system will disintegrate into "chaos" or leap to a new, more differentiated, higher level of "order". The latter case defines dissipative structures so termed because they need more energy to sustain them than the simpler structures they replace and are limited in growth by the amount of heat they are able to disperse. (Krippendorff) http://staff.science.nus.edu.sg/~par...c3/node49.html Dissipative Structures In this chapter we take our first detailed look at "truly" complex systems: Systems that large and out-of-equilibrium. Unfortunately, unlike the case for equilibrium systems, there is no well-developed formalism for studying such systems. Nevertheless one can identify some principles and resort to phenomenological equations or computer simulations of models to test ideas. http://staff.science.nus.edu.sg/~par...c3/node51.html Vortices The first example of a dissipative structure is a vortex, such as that which forms when water drains through the plughole in a bathtub or sink. The smooth flow of water far away from the plughole changes to fast swirling motion that leads to the formation of a structured object, the vortex. Larger examples of vortices are tornadoes that are common in the USA (and recently starred in the movie Twister!): When cold air from Canada collides on the continent with warm air from the Gulf of Mexico, intense thunderstorms result. All air-masses have a certain amount of rotational motion to begin with. When such air converges into the updraft of an intense thunderstorm, the rotational motion speeds up because of the conservation of angular momentum. (Recall how a skater increases her rate of spin by drawing in her arms). The vortex is an example of a time-dependent complex system. It is difficult to characterize in terms of a few parameters as in equilibrium systems studied earlier. In fact notice that the formation of the vortex breaks the homogeneity, or symmetry, of the non-moving water/air-mass. Thus this is our first example of greater macroscopic structure or dynamical order, in a non-equilibrium system. http://www.prototista.org/E-Zine/Ori...nceoforder.htm On the Origins of Order: Spontaneous emergence of order & fast changes (bifurcations) We are coming to understand that order arises spontaneously in networks. That is, order appears in non-linear, far-from-equilibrium dissipative structures by a process of self-organization, without an organizing force operating from outside the system (like natural selection), or an internal organizer (like DNA as a set of instructions) or a fifth force like the vital force, or Sheldrake's morphic fields) to direct or program the operation. The key to understanding why lies in understanding these concepts: far from equilibrium, non-linearity, feedback, dissipative structures, emergence, autopoiesis, bifurcation and attractor states. These ideas are central to understanding self-organization in Capra's book. As he writes: "The [new] models of self-organizing systems share certain key characteristics, which are the main ingredients of the emerging unified theory of living systems to be discussed in this book…Summarizing those three characteristics of self-organizing systems, we can say that self-organization is the spontaneous emergence of new structures and new forms of behavior in open systems far from equilibrium, characterized by internal feedback loops and described mathematically by non-linear equations (85)". Furthermore, thanks to the sciences of Complexity, we are finally coming to intellectually understand what we have intuitively and experientially known for millennia: rapid, unexpected jumps and changes seen in the phenomena studied by various fields of science are all examples explained by the same principles. Namely, they are bifurcations to new states of order resulting from instabilities in far-from-equilibrium, non-linear systems. None of these phenomena can be understood, let alone explained, using the linear mechanistic models described in most college texts. The wide range of phenomena demonstrates the interdisciplinary nature of Complexity. Examples include: the spontaneous emergence of order in the Benard instability (related to tornadoes and hurricanes); http://www.spontaneousorder.net/humaneco4.html AUTOCATAKINETICS: A THEORY OF EMBEDDED CIRCLES Identity Through Flow Symmetry Breaking And Symmetry Making: Autocatakinesis, And The Generalized Metabolism Of Dynamic Flow Structures ....Living systems from bacteria to cultural systems, as self-organizing, or spontaneously ordered systems, are defined by dynamic order‹their identity is constituted through the incessant flux of their components which are continuously being replaced from raw materials in their environments, and expelled in a more dissipated form. Persistence (the form of the thing) at one level (the "macro" level) is constituted by change at the component level (the "micro" level). In more technical terms, living systems are autocatakinetic systems while artifactual systems are not. The class of autocatakinetic systems includes more than just living systems, and this immediately suggests a connection between living and non-living things that will be more apparent later on. Dust devils, hurricanes, and tornadoes, for example, are all examples of autocatakinetic flow structures whose identities are constituted in just this way‹by the incessant flux of matter and energy pulled in from, and then excreted or expelled back into, their environments in a more degraded or dissipated form (see Figure 2). Figure 2. A tornado is an example of an autocatakinetic system, a dynamically ordered flow structure whose identity, in contrast to a machine, or artifact, is constituted not by a set of particular components typically occupying fixed positions with respect to each other, but by the ordered relations maintained by the incessant flow of its components. The dynamical order that defines the persistence of an autocatakinetic system as an object at the macro level, is maintained through constant change at the micro level. This incessant flux of components can be thought of as a generalized metabolism by which the system maintains itself by pulling environmental potentials (or resources) into its autocatakinesis, which it returns in a more dissipated form. All living things from bacteria to human cultural systems as well as the planetary system as a whole, which maintains a constant level of oxygen, for example, by this same generalized process, are all members of the class of autocatakinetic systems. Photo courtesy of the National Severe Storms Laboratory. An autocatakinetic system is defined as one that maintains its "self" as an entity constituted by, and empirically traceable to, a set of nonlinear (circularly causal) relations through the dissipation or breakdown of field (environmental) potentials (or resources) in the continuous coordinated motion of its components (from auto- "self" + cata- "down" + kinetic, "of the motion of material bodies and the forces and energy associated therewith" from kinein, "to cause to move")(Swenson, 1991a). http://maps.unomaha.edu/Peake/3510/thunder.html THUNDERSTORMS, LIGHTNING AND TORNADOES .... TORNADO FORMATION A strong thunderstorm provides the concentrated, persistent updraft needed to launch a tornado and to prevent its low pressure core from filling from above -when the top of such a storm is viewed from a satellite it usually displays a characteristic sequence of rising bubbles of cloud material that overshoot the mean cloud top by two to four km and then subside back into the cloud mass. -bubbles are indicators of a strong updraft with a high degree of organization in the storm -for a tornado to be formed, however, the air in the updraft must begin to rotate as well -this can happen if the updraft concentrates the spin contained in the horizontal winds in the troposphere. Not just any winds will do -they must be strongly sheared vertically in both magnitude and direction; the wind speed must increase with altitude and direction must veer from southeast to west -vertical shear in wind speed provides a source of rotation about a horizontal axis -as winds aloft are moving faster a paddlewheel effect is set up -shear in wind direction also provides a source of rotation -especially effective as updraft begins According to current models, a severe thunderstorm gives rise to a tornado in two steps 1. first the entire thunderstorm updraft begins to rotate -this spinning column of rising air 10 to 20 km in diameter is called a mesocyclone -rotation begins in the mid troposphere 2. Once rotation has begun at mid levels it builds down toward the ground through a dynamic pipe effect -along the rotating column the pressure field is now in balance with the strongly curved wind field -the inwardly directed force acting on air parcels as a result of the reduced pressure at the center of the column is countered by the outwardly directed centrifugal force resulting from the parcel's rotation about the center. -in such a condition of cyclostrophic balance the air can easily move around and along the axis of the cyclone,but radial motions toward or away from the axis are strongly suppressed -almost all the air entering the column must come from its lower end. -it is like a vacuum cleaner hose except that instead of being channeled by the wall of the hose the airflow in the cyclone constrained by its own swirling motion. The result is an intensification of the updraft and hence of the converging winds under the cyclone -because of the shear in wind direction, the air converging into the updraft has a component of spin about the center of the column -as the air parcels distance from the center of rotation decreases its velocity must also increase and it begins to spin faster about the center As air parcels converge into the base of the pipe they turn and accelerate upward -this results in their being stretched vertically -stretching narrows the diameter of the mesocyclone from two to six km Tilting, the dynamic pipe effect,convergence and vertical stretching processes that feed on one another can eventually form a mesocyclone that extends from about l km above the ground to near the top of the thunderstorm at about l5 km. -surface winds with speeds as high as 75 mph can blow over the large region under the swirling column -the rotation in the mesocyclone is still too diffuse and too far aloft to generate truly intense surface winds The generation of such winds comes in THE SECOND STEP by which a severe thunderstorm gives rise to a tornado; the formation of the actual tornado core. -for reasons that are not yet understood, a region of enhanced convergence and stretching, no more than l km in diameter appears to develop inside the mesocyclone, toward one side -Doppler radar observations suggest that the intensification of spin begins aloft, at altitudes of several km and then quickly builds down toward the ground. -over such a small area the rotational motion is strong enough for the dynamic pipe effect to reach within several tens of meters of the ground -close to the ground, friction prevents the establishment of a cyclostrophic balance by slowing the rotational motion In response to the pressure gradient between the tornado core and the surrounding atmosphere, air streams inward through a thin layer near the ground. -owing to inertia, the inflow actually overshoots its equilibrium radius, conserving its angular momentum and picking up speed as it approaches the center of the core before turning sharply to spiral upward -as a result the highest wind speeds are found in a small ring shaped region at the base of the vortex. BASIC CHARACTERISTICS Average path is 25 km -May 26, l9l7 in Ill and Ind 469 km path 7 hrs 20 min April 3 and 4, l974 148 tornadoes 315 deaths Winds up to 400 km per hour or as less as 65 km/hr Speed 55-70 km per hour Move generally from southwest to northeast -most are about 100 yards in diameter or so -most are on ground only for a few minutes TORNADO DISTRIBUTION Occur in England, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy, India, Russia, Japan, Canada and Australia In North America are about 600 per year Rare on east and west coasts -May most December east Seasonal march of maximum frequency Time of day in Great Plains 2/3 occur between 1 and 8 at night Tornado maxima precedes hail max. by l month and Tstorm max by 2 |
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[2] Posted by David Ball 07-09-2003, 10:03 PM |
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On 9 Jul 2003 17:03:02 -0700, Melchizedek@USA.com (Psalm 110) wrote:
And did you find this all by yourself? You do realise that there is nothing in this gibberish that amounts to proof. > >http://staff.science.nus.edu.sg/~par...c3/node51.html > >Vortices >The first example of a dissipative structure is a vortex, such as that >which forms when water drains through the plughole in a bathtub or >sink. The smooth flow of water far away from the plughole changes to >fast swirling motion that leads to the formation of a structured >object, the vortex. Larger examples of vortices are tornadoes that are >common in the USA (and recently starred in the movie Twister!): When >cold air from Canada collides on the continent with warm air from the >Gulf of Mexico, intense thunderstorms result. What a load of BS. There is no requirement for clashing airmasses. Two things are required for thunderstorm: instability and lift. If you have those in the proper measure you can produce a thunderstorm. Throw in deep layer shear and you have the potential for organized long-lived deep convection: a supercell. >All air-masses have a >certain amount of rotational motion to begin with. Airmasses can have some rotational motion, but not always. You also have to have the right motion. Anti-cyclonic rotation exists but is rather uncommon. Vorticity is a function of wind speed such that w = del X V, where del is the del operator and V is the 3 dimensional wind speed. >When such air >converges into the updraft of an intense thunderstorm, the rotational >motion speeds up because of the conservation of angular momentum. More gibberish. They're talking about a number of different processes at work and getting them confused. First of all, in the absence of shear, you don't have streamwise vorticity, the component of the horizontal vorticity parallel to the horizontal wind to be tilted into the thunderstorm updraft to undergo stretching. What can happen with things like landspouts is that the thunderstorm updraft moves over an area of pre-existing vorticity that is then stretched out. You don't even need a thunderstorm to do this. In a strong shear environment, streamwise vorticity is available in abundance and that can be tilted into the updraft of a thunderstorm. The effect of this is not to produce a tornado, but rather to produce a rotating updraft that tilts down shear. Rain produced by the thunderstorm cannot fall back into the updraft choking it off the way that pulse storms do, so these storms, so-called supercells, are very long-lived. Tornado's form through multiple mechanisms and cover a huge spectrum of shapes and sizes. In tornadic supercells it is the complex interactions between the rotating updraft and the rear flank downdraft. The simple fact is, that the type of weak tornado they are talking about doesn't require anything to do with temperature to form. Weak multicell storms will often produce chaotic outflow boundaries with very complex interactions. Any rinky-dink thunderstorm passing over this pre-existing vorticity will stretch it out. If you want to make this kind of argument you're going to have to show how GW will alter the basic parameters needed for the development of deep convection: instability, lift and shear. |
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[3] Posted by Lawson English 07-09-2003, 10:07 PM |
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"Psalm 110" <Melchizedek@USA.com> wrote in message news:2275a3c5.0307091603.cb72658@posting.google.co m... > http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/ASC/Dissip_struc.html > > DISSIPATIVE STRUCTURE > A system that exits far from thermodynamic equilibrium (see > thermodynamics), hence efficiently dissipates the heat generated to > sustain it, and has the capacity of changing to higher levels of > orderliness (see self-organization). According to Prigogine, systems > contain subsystems that continuously fluctuate. At times a single > fluctuation or a combination of them may become so magnified by > possible feedback, that it shatters the preexisting organization. At > such revolutionary moments or "bifurcation points", it is impossible > to determine in advance whether the system will disintegrate into > "chaos" or leap to a new, more differentiated, higher level of > "order". The latter case defines dissipative structures so termed > because they need more energy to sustain them than the simpler > structures they replace and are limited in growth by the amount of > heat they are able to disperse. (Krippendorff) [...] I guess this explains George Bush in some way? -- New definition of irony: 'Today's liberal Democrats are like the supporters of the Third Reich of the '30's and '40's - they absolutely trusted the government to "make things right". ' -Comment made on the internet by an ardent GW Bush supporter. 2 |
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[4] Posted by Lawson English 07-09-2003, 10:52 PM |
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"David Ball" <wraith7@mb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:sscpgv0map0r0aghhh6bpe23bsa1637iec@4ax.com... > On 9 Jul 2003 17:03:02 -0700, Melchizedek@USA.com (Psalm 110) wrote: > > And did you find this all by yourself? You do realise that > there is nothing in this gibberish that amounts to proof. A question for you: a while back I observed what I first thought was a dust devil which I realized stretched all the way into the cloud cover and apparently involved the clouds in some way. Here in Arizona, we frequently have "dust devils" which look like tiny tornados but aren't really. While someone eventually spotted the funnel cloud and reported it on the radio, as far as I know, it was never noted by the weather service. Is it possible for a tornado to form within a few miles of a major airport without ever appearing on radar or was this just a super-dust-devil that happened to look like a tornado or is there a distinction to be made at that point? Does my question even make sense? -- New definition of irony: 'Today's liberal Democrats are like the supporters of the Third Reich of the '30's and '40's - they absolutely trusted the government to "make things right". ' -Comment made on the internet by an ardent GW Bush supporter. |
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[5] Posted by David Ball 07-10-2003, 03:57 AM |
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On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:52:55 -0700, "Lawson English"
<english7@mindspring.com> wrote: > >"David Ball" <wraith7@mb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message >news:sscpgv0map0r0aghhh6bpe23bsa1637iec@4ax.com.. . >> On 9 Jul 2003 17:03:02 -0700, Melchizedek@USA.com (Psalm 110) wrote: >> >> And did you find this all by yourself? You do realise that >> there is nothing in this gibberish that amounts to proof. > >A question for you: a while back I observed what I first thought was a dust >devil which I realized stretched all the way into the cloud cover and >apparently involved the clouds in some way. Here in Arizona, we frequently >have "dust devils" which look like tiny tornados but aren't really. The word tornado really encompasses the full spectrum of atmospheric vortices from smallest to largest. An old definition of the term used to insist that thunderstorms be pendant from the thunderstorm base, but that has gone by the wayside as more understanding of their formation has been obtained. They can, and often do, spin up from the ground, so this could well have been a landspout. > >While someone eventually spotted the funnel cloud and reported it on the >radio, as far as I know, it was never noted by the weather service. Is it >possible for a tornado to form within a few miles of a major airport without >ever appearing on radar or was this just a super-dust-devil that happened to >look like a tornado or is there a distinction to be made at that point? > It was likely noted, but there was little that could be done. First of all, these are very common occurrences as well as being very transitory. They occur in very weakly sheared environments, often are very low level features, and often don't even involve precipitation. Why is that important? First of all, you have to understand that most radars provide imagery every 5 minutes or so. Newer phased array radars will provide every more timely information, but in the case of a landspout the radar might not have even captured the event. Secondly, doppler radars are what we call PPI for Plan Position Indicator radars. What that means is that the radar beam sent out at say 0.3 degree elevation rises as it moves away from the radar. Landspouts are low level features and it is doubtful that you could even see the low level rotation associated with it given that the radar was likely overshooting it. Finally, in order for a radar to capture anything there has to be something in the beam of an appropriate size to reflect back to the dish. Normally, that is precipitation, but it can also be insects. If this was a dry event, there would be nothing for the radar to even detect. To be quite honest with you, forecasting landspouts is nearly impossible and they are a royal PITA. The public, quite rightly, gets very concerned because they can and do cause damage. Some landspouts have reached F2 and possibly F3 intensities, but they are nearly impossible to forecast because their signatures are so weak. >Does my question even make sense? Yes, it was a good question. I hope I gave you the information you were looking for. |
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