"K&N" <unlisted@netins.net> wrote in message news:<beiikr$ne$1@ins22.netins.net>...
> Yes, we had a storm and some hail. We get storms like this every summer.
> Are you saying this was caused by AGW?

YOU didn't get hail that punched dents in your car, broke your
windshield, smashed through your roof, killed some of your livestock,
and shredded your crops, asshole, or you wouldn't be making light of
these tragedies.

The evidence is now too big. 560 tornadoes may not be enought to wake
you from your hypnotic trance, but every BLOODY NOSE from Global
Warmining weather chaos, sucks more voters out of the RED ZONE back to
reality.

Your "environmental president" can't save your ass when its your turn
to be homeless. You made money your god -- now pray to your money, you
republican nature-hating sack of shit.

There are more areas flooded in the year 2003 in the first six months
than in any year for which data has been kept going back to 1985. 2005
still has six months to go.

Maps of the Global Flooding in 6 months of 2003
http://www.dartmouth.edu/artsci/geog...2003global.jpg

Interactive maps of Global Flooding going back to 1985
http://www.dartmouth.edu/artsci/geog...rchiveMap.html

Data tables of Global Flooding in 2003
http://www.dartmouth.edu/artsci/geog...es/2003sum.htm



> "Psalm 110" <Melchizedek@USA.com> wrote in message
> news:2275a3c5.0307081142.68437dee@posting.google.c om...
> > http://www.theiowachannel.com/weathe...32/detail.html
> >
> > Monday Storms Drop Golf Ball Sized Hail
> >
> > POSTED: 6:07 p.m. CDT July 7, 2003
> > UPDATED: 12:40 p.m. CDT July 8, 2003
> >
> > DES MOINES, Iowa -- Severe thunderstorms streaming across central Iowa
> > Monday dropped golf ball sized hail on many towns including Newton and
> > Des Moines.
> >
> > NewsChannel 8 meteorologist John McLaughlin said the storms were
> > concentrated in a couple county wide line just north and south of
> > Interstate 80.
> >
> > McLaughlin said the main threat from the storms was large hail. Heavy
> > rain also was reported with the storms.
> >
> > Storms are expected to continue Tuesday.
> >
> > Storm Reports
> > Des Moines:
> > Golf ball sized hail as large as 3 inches was reported near the state
> > Capitol in downtown Des Moines. Street flooding was also reported
> > across the metro and on Interstate 235 near downtown (pictured, top
> > right). Traffic in both west and eastbound lanes was backed up as
> > drivers slowed down to pass through the deep water near the Des Moines
> > River bridge.
> >
> > Newton
> > Golf ball sized hail reported and captured on pictures (pictured,
> > right) by Brian Curtis.

On 10 Jul 2003 00:20:01 -0700, Melchizedek@USA.com (Psalm 110) wrote:

>"K&N" <unlisted@netins.net> wrote in message news:<beiikr$ne$1@ins22.netins.net>...
>> Yes, we had a storm and some hail. We get storms like this every summer.
>> Are you saying this was caused by AGW?
>
>YOU didn't get hail that punched dents in your car, broke your
>windshield, smashed through your roof, killed some of your livestock,
>and shredded your crops, asshole, or you wouldn't be making light of
>these tragedies.
>
Did one of these stones have an impact on your skull? Would
that explain the stupid weather stories you're posting?

Psalm, I sympathize with your frustation, but what good does it do for
anyone's cause, including that of environmental sanity, when you as an
environmentalist yell at people and call them names?

Also, what does it prove in the way of logic?

Nothing.

I can't pretend to be a Christian, but I'm struck by the passage in
the Old Testament - maybe it's in Chronicles, or Judges, or somewhere
in there? - where Elijah is in a battle with the priests of Baal and
goes into a cave to pray to God for guidance about it.

What my Revised Standard Version says is that Elijah prays and prays,
and there is a tremendous earthquake - "But God was not in the
earthquake."

And he prays some more, and there is a huge storm - "But God was not
in the storm." And then he prays some more, and there arises a
"still, small voice."

Yelling at people, cursing people, hating people is not going to
convince them of anything - and it doesn't matter whether they deserve
to be yelled at, either. God is not in the yelling or the curses, or
in the earthquake or the tornado.

But maybe the still small voice of reason has a chance.

In sympathy - JohnAndrew
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"K&N" <unlisted@netins.net> wrote in message news:<belcma$15v$1@ins22.netins.net>...
> "Psalm 110" <Melchizedek@USA.com> wrote in message
> news:2275a3c5.0307092320.4a4d2b59@posting.google.c om...
> > "K&N" <unlisted@netins.net> wrote in message
> news:<beiikr$ne$1@ins22.netins.net>...
> > > Yes, we had a storm and some hail. We get storms like this every
> summer.
> > > Are you saying this was caused by AGW?
> >
> > YOU didn't get hail that punched dents in your car, broke your
> > windshield, smashed through your roof, killed some of your livestock,
> > and shredded your crops, asshole, or you wouldn't be making light of
> > these tragedies.
>
> Not this storm, but we have in the past. Storms like this happen once in a
> while. Its a fact of life here. That's why farmers buy hail insurance and
> and everyone else carries property insurance. Several years ago the town of
> Oskaloosa had a hail storm come through that dented every car that was
> outside. I've seen entire fields of corn shredded down into mulch.
>
> This type of weather is normal for our part of the country. So learn some
> facts before you call me dirty names.
>
> >
> > The evidence is now too big. 560 tornadoes may not be enought to wake
> > you from your hypnotic trance, but every BLOODY NOSE from Global
> > Warmining weather chaos, sucks more voters out of the RED ZONE back to
> > reality.
> >
> > Your "environmental president" can't save your ass when its your turn
> > to be homeless. You made money your god -- now pray to your money, you
> > republican nature-hating sack of shit.
>
> I dont expect any president to save me. Thats what our local community is
> for. Dont tell me who or what my God is. You may sign your name Psalm 110
> but you dont know shit about christian values.
>
> >
> > There are more areas flooded in the year 2003 in the first six months
> > than in any year for which data has been kept going back to 1985. 2005
> > still has six months to go.
>
> 2005 has 12 months to go. But not for another year and a half.