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David Lentz
[21] Posted by David Lentz 07-11-2003, 07:11 PM
 
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grub@internet.charitydays.co.uk wrote:

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> >> Amazing ignorance, considering your intelligent replies in other
> >> threads, David. 8 out of 10 AIDS infections worldwide have
> >> resulted from heterosexual intercourse. Wake up.
> >> http://www.thebody.com/niaid/stats.html

> >
> >It still goes in anally. In Africa, anal intercourse is used as
> >a method of birth control. Hence, the high incidence of AIDS in
> >AFrica among heterosexuals.
> >
> >David

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
> ".........It still goes in anally........."
>
> That's not the ONLY way you can get AIDS.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~


You also have injecting street drugs, or having sex with men who
either use intravenous street drugs or have sex with other men.
That just about takes care of it.

Please don't bother to mention Ryan White, as if he were either
typical or current.

David
 
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Rick
[22] Posted by Rick 07-11-2003, 07:47 PM
 
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"David Lentz" <dlentz10@/*NOSPAM*/rochester.rr.com> wrote in message news:NyGPa.33500$EQ5.1731@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > > It still goes in anally. In Africa, anal intercourse is used as
> > > a method of birth control. Hence, the high incidence of AIDS in
> > > AFrica among heterosexuals.

> >
> > Exactly. AIDS transmission is specific to certain sexual acts
> > and not specific sexual orientations. There's no need for anyone
> > to "mainstream" the disease. In 2001, 580,000 children under
> > age 15 died of AIDS.

>
> HIV, the virus which causes AIDS, is vectored by behavior. The
> behavior which vectors HIV can be prevented, or at least
> deterred. Yet in the United States the very population which
> proclaims to be so concerned about AIDS shows little interest, if
> any, in attempting to curb the behavior which vector HIV.


Little interest??? You've got a lot of gall. Is that why gay
advocates were forced to throw friggin condoms in churches to
get people's attention?

It's the rest of the country, people like you who mistakenly
believe it's "their disease" who are getting infected at higher and
higher rates.

> I say if the public were to think of AIDS as if it were an
> acronym for Anal Injected Death Sentence it would help deter the
> spread of the virus in United States.


That's more than a little myopic. Protected anal sex is safer
than unprotected vaginal sex. But in any case the point is that
sexual orientation is incidental to HIV infection. As I mentioned
before, lesbians have the lowest infection rate of any group, and
the risk factor for two HIV-negative men who are in a
monogamous relationship is essentially zero.

RickW


 
Fredric L. Rice
[23] Posted by Fredric L. Rice 07-11-2003, 09:30 PM
 
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David Lentz <dlentz10@/*NOSPAM*/rochester.rr.com> wrote:


>Rick wrote:


><snio>


>> > Why are only conservatives expected to maintain civilized
>> > standards for speech. Liberal are fond of wishing their opponent
>> > to die disease, to include AIDS. Militant homosexuals have
>> > spent deciding trying to main stream AIDS. Despite decades of
>> > vain attempts to main stream the disease, AIDS is still and
>> > acronym for Anal Injec5ed Death Sentence, and the homophiles know
>> > it. It is there diseases.

>>
>> Amazing ignorance, considering your intelligent replies in other
>> threads, David. 8 out of 10 AIDS infections worldwide have
>> resulted from heterosexual intercourse. Wake up.
>> http://www.thebody.com/niaid/stats.html


>It still goes in anally.


Who's been feeding you these notions? David Duke?

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David Lentz
[24] Posted by David Lentz 07-12-2003, 08:14 AM
 
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Rick wrote:

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> > HIV, the virus which causes AIDS, is vectored by behavior. The
> > behavior which vectors HIV can be prevented, or at least
> > deterred. Yet in the United States the very population which
> > proclaims to be so concerned about AIDS shows little interest, if
> > any, in attempting to curb the behavior which vector HIV.

>
> Little interest??? You've got a lot of gall. Is that why gay
> advocates were forced to throw friggin condoms in churches to
> get people's attention?
>
> It's the rest of the country, people like you who mistakenly
> believe it's "their disease" who are getting infected at higher and
> higher rates.
>
> > I say if the public were to think of AIDS as if it were an
> > acronym for Anal Injected Death Sentence it would help deter the
> > spread of the virus in United States.

>
> That's more than a little myopic. Protected anal sex is safer
> than unprotected vaginal sex. But in any case the point is that
> sexual orientation is incidental to HIV infection. As I mentioned
> before, lesbians have the lowest infection rate of any group, and
> the risk factor for two HIV-negative men who are in a
> monogamous relationship is essentially zero.


Condoms do not work. The use of condoms gives the illusion of
safety which only makes the victim all the more willing to engage
in risky behavior. Those throwing condoms are not trying to curb
the spread of the HIV virus. Rather they are trying to promote
the spreading of the virus. They are flying under the false
colors of compassion.

It not any supposed sexual preference which vectors disease. In
the case of HIV, it almost always stupid, and needless,
behavior. The key to preventing the spread of HIV, and saving
all those lives which of who so much compassion is professed, is
to curb the behaviors.

David
 
Fredric L. Rice
[25] Posted by Fredric L. Rice 07-12-2003, 05:31 PM
 
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Mephistopheles <Satan@Hell.gov> wrote:
>eflorack@rochester.rr.com (eflorack) wrote:
>>Tempest <tempest@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3F0CA3F5.BFF92651@hotmail.com>...
>>> "B. Nice" wrote:
>>> ".BitHead." <bithead@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:i51ngv02ueju1pe8og8baudjtun4j8h79k@4ax.com...
>>>> > On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 02:43:09 GMT, "B. Nice"
>>> > > Now, when I priaed MSNBC for canning Donahue, you said pretty much the
>>> > > same thing.
>>> Donahue wasn't fired for being a homophobic ranting moron.

>>So, let me see, here.
>>One cannot disagree with homosexuals on any point without the label gun showing up?


>Telling his phone guest to "get aids and die" is not "disagreeing."
>It's hate speech.


It's also _protected_ speech. I've got zero problem with hate mongers
taking to the airwaves and exposing who they are and what they stand for
out in the open. It's _good_ that these right-wingnut bigot types are
allowed to open their yaps and show us what they're all about.

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Fredric L. Rice
[26] Posted by Fredric L. Rice 07-12-2003, 05:33 PM
 
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Mephistopheles <Satan@Hell.gov> wrote:

> Can you really picture Bob Novak responding
> the way Savage did? Pat Buchanan?


Buchanan, yes. Without a doubt I could see him express his Christian
hatred of homosexuals in public if he felt it wouldn't get him equal
treatment as his ideological buddy Savage got.

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Fredric L. Rice
[27] Posted by Fredric L. Rice 07-12-2003, 05:41 PM
 
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..BitHead. <bithead@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

>and particularly someone in denial about the virtiol
>coming from the left at their selected targets.


Would you like to offer a cople of "for instances?"

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.BitHead.
[28] Posted by .BitHead. 07-12-2003, 10:20 PM
 
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:41:49 GMT, frice@skeptictank.org (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:

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>.BitHead. <bithead@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>and particularly someone in denial about the virtiol
>>coming from the left at their selected targets.

>
>Would you like to offer a cople of "for instances?"



* During the impeachment hearings, Alec Baldwin delivered these words
as a guest on the Late Night with Conan O'brien Show: "...We would go
down to Washington and we would stone Henry Hyde to death! ...Then we
would go into their homes and kill their wives and families."

* Do I really have to provide you with leftist vitriol on President
Bush? Hell, man, just look at this NG.

* Let's take the Democrat Underground Hosting... or, DUH, for short.

http://www.democraticunderground.org/top10/index.html


need more?

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Fredric L. Rice
[29] Posted by Fredric L. Rice 07-12-2003, 11:07 PM
 
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..BitHead. <bithead@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:41:49 GMT, frice@skeptictank.org (Fredric L.
>Rice) wrote:
>>X-No-Archive: yes
>>.BitHead. <bithead@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>>>and particularly someone in denial about the virtiol
>>>coming from the left at their selected targets.

>>Would you like to offer a cople of "for instances?"


>I'll give you one better.
>I'll give you the option of the content.


A simple "no" would have been quicker. You lied, just like Bush lied.

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.BitHead.
[30] Posted by .BitHead. 07-13-2003, 01:28 AM
 
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 22:23:16 -0500, Figaro <figaro@satx.rr.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 01:20:41 GMT, .BitHead. <bithead@rochester.rr.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:41:49 GMT, frice@skeptictank.org (Fredric L.
>>Rice) wrote:
>>
>>>X-No-Archive: yes
>>>.BitHead. <bithead@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>and particularly someone in denial about the virtiol
>>>>coming from the left at their selected targets.
>>>
>>>Would you like to offer a cople of "for instances?"

>>
>>
>>* During the impeachment hearings, Alec Baldwin delivered these words
>>as a guest on the Late Night with Conan O'brien Show: "...We would go
>>down to Washington and we would stone Henry Hyde to death! ...Then we
>>would go into their homes and kill their wives and families."
>>
>>* Do I really have to provide you with leftist vitriol on President
>>Bush? Hell, man, just look at this NG.
>>
>>* Let's take the Democrat Underground Hosting... or, DUH, for short.
>>
>>http://www.democraticunderground.org/top10/index.html
>>
>>
>>need more?
>>

>You just don't get it do you? Whatever stupid remark Baldwin made, the
>fact is he is NOT the president, he does NOT have the power to send
>men to their death in a phony war, he did NOT take an oath to preserve
>and protect the constitution, and his actions do NOT effect our
>everyday lives. Baldwin's behavior doesn't matter a damn and isn't
>even worth commenting on; Bush's behavior is killing this country.



OK, now explain to me how that doesn't qualify as vitriol against the
right, and explain while you're at it what the hell your own vitriol
has to do with the subject at hand...

DO try to stay on topic.

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