Re: IRAQI WMD UNFOLDING

Will Dumes · Will Dumes

"DGVREIMAN" <dggrant@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> IRAQI WMD UNFOLDING
>
> So, were the Iraqis hiding nuclear weapon parts or not? Answer:
> Yes.
>
> Did we find "some of them?" Answer: Yes.
>
>
> Are there more parts to find or to determine the disposition of
> these weapons? Yes.
>
> I suspect some people will still be howling about not finding WMD
> unless we find a nuclear device ticking loudly. The point is that
> Saddam was hiding nuclear weapon parts, and Saddam lied when he
> said he was not. Period. End of story.
>
> In respect to chemical weapons we also know that Saddam dumped
> tons of those weapons in the Euphrates river AFTER the war
> started. No war, no dumping of chemical weapons. No war, no
> finding hidden nuclear weapon parts. No war, no finding hidden
> missiles scattered all over Iraq. No war, no finding 500,000 mass
> graves. No war, no finding Mobile Biological Weapon's Labs. No
> war, no finding and stopping Saddam's direct terrorist link. No
> war, no finding 51 hidden MIG Aircraft, some of which were
> converted to spray chemical or biological weapons. No war, no
> finding drone aircraft capable of delivering chemical and
> biological weapons. Duh
>
> However, it appears that in one respect PM Blair and President
> Bush did not reveal something about Saddam; In truth Saddam
> possessed many more proscribed WMD than we were told.
>
> Also, no war, and we would have never been able to prove that
> other radical Muslim terrorist groups were involved with Saddam,
> such as Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Answr-Islam, Martyrs Brigade and
> the PLO. Even today Hamas admitted it was involved in the attacks
> on our coalition soldiers in Iraq, and proclaimed they intended
> to increase such attacks.
>
> So finally, what I have been telling everyone for months, that is
> all of the Muslim radical terrorist groups are interconnected,
> has been irrefutably proved true. We cannot fight Al Qaeda
> without also fighting the rest of the radical Muslim goon groups.
> Further, it is also very clear that Israel has been fighting
> America's enemies all along. We owe Israel a debt of gratitude
> for the pain and suffering the Israeli people have endured
> because the radical Muslim goons hate America.
>
> Everyone should remember the radical Muslim goons took Americans
> hostages in Iran, not Israelis, and it was American Marines that
> were targeted and murdered in Lebanon by the Iranians, not
> Israelis.

Well said, Doug. This is a good piece and one which others would do
well to heed before they let their prejudices guide them.

vonroach · vonroach

On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:23:30 +1000, "mkosca" <mark@NOSPAMlogichip.com.au> wrote:

>. Saddam and Al Qaeda had no links, they were poles apart on
>ideology.

Really? It is odd that Sadaam hosted their training camps in Iraq. I don't
regard any terrorists as `poles apart' from another terrorist.

DGVREIMAN · DGVREIMAN

"mark" <fugacious@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:aee685f1.0307080021.16530b3a@posting.google.c om...
> vonroach <vonroach@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:<u5qigvcoh2e1v4cog0s2fsomgmh95724oi@4ax.com>. ..
> > On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:23:30 +1000, "mkosca"
<mark@NOSPAMlogichip.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > >. Saddam and Al Qaeda had no links, they were poles apart on
> > >ideology.
> >
> > Really? It is odd that Sadaam hosted their training camps in
Iraq. I don't
> > regard any terrorists as `poles apart' from another
terrorist.
>
> Really Sherlock? Those camps were in the Northern "No Fly Zone"
under
> constant US and Brithish observation. So who supported these
*ALLEGED*
> terrorist camps again??
>
> So by your logic the USA is the same as Al Qaeda, France,
Russia etc?
> Just because you don't know of the terrorist measures supported
by the
> USA and other world government does not mean they don't exist.
Oh
> thats right you brainwash yourself into thinking it's ok for us
to
> kill and torture "we're the good guys"
>
> My suggestion is to buy yourself a copy of Rogue State by
William
> Blum, perhaps you could contribute something more sensible to
the
> discussion that pure ideologue.

Doug Says: The terrorist training camp at Salman Pak (just south
of Baghdad) trained Al Qaeda operatives. Further, Amb. Beamer
said in a live interview the Iraqi POW's are testifying they had
been training with Al Qaeda for years, and Al Qeada was fighting
right along side of them during the Iraqi liberation.

Doug Grant (Tm)

NBT · NBT

In article
<%aWOa.45873$0v4.3167424@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"DGVREIMAN" <dggrant@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> "mark" <fugacious@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:aee685f1.0307080021.16530b3a@posting.google.c om...
> > vonroach <vonroach@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:<u5qigvcoh2e1v4cog0s2fsomgmh95724oi@4ax.com>. ..
> > > On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:23:30 +1000, "mkosca"
> <mark@NOSPAMlogichip.com.au> wrote:
> > >
> > > >. Saddam and Al Qaeda had no links, they were poles apart on
> > > >ideology.
> > >
> > > Really? It is odd that Sadaam hosted their training camps in
> Iraq. I don't
> > > regard any terrorists as `poles apart' from another
> terrorist.
> >
> > Really Sherlock? Those camps were in the Northern "No Fly Zone"
> under
> > constant US and Brithish observation. So who supported these
> *ALLEGED*
> > terrorist camps again??
> >
> > So by your logic the USA is the same as Al Qaeda, France,
> Russia etc?
> > Just because you don't know of the terrorist measures supported
> by the
> > USA and other world government does not mean they don't exist.
> Oh
> > thats right you brainwash yourself into thinking it's ok for us
> to
> > kill and torture "we're the good guys"
> >
> > My suggestion is to buy yourself a copy of Rogue State by
> William
> > Blum, perhaps you could contribute something more sensible to
> the
> > discussion that pure ideologue.
>
> Doug Says: The terrorist training camp at Salman Pak (just south
> of Baghdad) trained Al Qaeda operatives. Further, Amb. Beamer
> said in a live interview the Iraqi POW's are testifying they had
> been training with Al Qaeda for years, and Al Qeada was fighting
> right along side of them during the Iraqi liberation.
>
> Doug Grant (Tm)
>
>

hoohoohooh... hi hi hi hi hi... hoo hoo hoo hoo... ha ha ha ha ha
Doug,,, you killing me over here...
:-)

--
NBT

Will Dumes	[1] Posted by Will Dumes 07-06-2003, 02:51 PM
Posts: n/a	Quote "DGVREIMAN" <dggrant@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > IRAQI WMD UNFOLDING > > So, were the Iraqis hiding nuclear weapon parts or not? Answer: > Yes. > > Did we find "some of them?" Answer: Yes. > > > Are there more parts to find or to determine the disposition of > these weapons? Yes. > > I suspect some people will still be howling about not finding WMD > unless we find a nuclear device ticking loudly. The point is that > Saddam was hiding nuclear weapon parts, and Saddam lied when he > said he was not. Period. End of story. > > In respect to chemical weapons we also know that Saddam dumped > tons of those weapons in the Euphrates river AFTER the war > started. No war, no dumping of chemical weapons. No war, no > finding hidden nuclear weapon parts. No war, no finding hidden > missiles scattered all over Iraq. No war, no finding 500,000 mass > graves. No war, no finding Mobile Biological Weapon's Labs. No > war, no finding and stopping Saddam's direct terrorist link. No > war, no finding 51 hidden MIG Aircraft, some of which were > converted to spray chemical or biological weapons. No war, no > finding drone aircraft capable of delivering chemical and > biological weapons. Duh > > However, it appears that in one respect PM Blair and President > Bush did not reveal something about Saddam; In truth Saddam > possessed many more proscribed WMD than we were told. > > Also, no war, and we would have never been able to prove that > other radical Muslim terrorist groups were involved with Saddam, > such as Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Answr-Islam, Martyrs Brigade and > the PLO. Even today Hamas admitted it was involved in the attacks > on our coalition soldiers in Iraq, and proclaimed they intended > to increase such attacks. > > So finally, what I have been telling everyone for months, that is > all of the Muslim radical terrorist groups are interconnected, > has been irrefutably proved true. We cannot fight Al Qaeda > without also fighting the rest of the radical Muslim goon groups. > Further, it is also very clear that Israel has been fighting > America's enemies all along. We owe Israel a debt of gratitude > for the pain and suffering the Israeli people have endured > because the radical Muslim goons hate America. > > Everyone should remember the radical Muslim goons took Americans > hostages in Iran, not Israelis, and it was American Marines that > were targeted and murdered in Lebanon by the Iranians, not > Israelis. Well said, Doug. This is a good piece and one which others would do well to heed before they let their prejudices guide them.
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vonroach	[2] Posted by vonroach 07-07-2003, 09:35 AM
Posts: n/a	Quote On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:23:30 +1000, "mkosca" <mark@NOSPAMlogichip.com.au> wrote: >. Saddam and Al Qaeda had no links, they were poles apart on >ideology. Really? It is odd that Sadaam hosted their training camps in Iraq. I don't regard any terrorists as `poles apart' from another terrorist.
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DGVREIMAN	[3] Posted by DGVREIMAN 07-09-2003, 12:05 PM
Posts: n/a	Quote "mark" <fugacious@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:aee685f1.0307080021.16530b3a@posting.google.c om... > vonroach <vonroach@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<u5qigvcoh2e1v4cog0s2fsomgmh95724oi@4ax.com>. .. > > On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:23:30 +1000, "mkosca" <mark@NOSPAMlogichip.com.au> wrote: > > > > >. Saddam and Al Qaeda had no links, they were poles apart on > > >ideology. > > > > Really? It is odd that Sadaam hosted their training camps in Iraq. I don't > > regard any terrorists as `poles apart' from another terrorist. > > Really Sherlock? Those camps were in the Northern "No Fly Zone" under > constant US and Brithish observation. So who supported these ALLEGED > terrorist camps again?? > > So by your logic the USA is the same as Al Qaeda, France, Russia etc? > Just because you don't know of the terrorist measures supported by the > USA and other world government does not mean they don't exist. Oh > thats right you brainwash yourself into thinking it's ok for us to > kill and torture "we're the good guys" > > My suggestion is to buy yourself a copy of Rogue State by William > Blum, perhaps you could contribute something more sensible to the > discussion that pure ideologue. Doug Says: The terrorist training camp at Salman Pak (just south of Baghdad) trained Al Qaeda operatives. Further, Amb. Beamer said in a live interview the Iraqi POW's are testifying they had been training with Al Qaeda for years, and Al Qeada was fighting right along side of them during the Iraqi liberation. Doug Grant (Tm)
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NBT	[4] Posted by NBT 07-09-2003, 06:11 PM
Posts: n/a	Quote In article <%aWOa.45873$0v4.3167424@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "DGVREIMAN" <dggrant@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > "mark" <fugacious@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:aee685f1.0307080021.16530b3a@posting.google.c om... > > vonroach <vonroach@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:<u5qigvcoh2e1v4cog0s2fsomgmh95724oi@4ax.com>. .. > > > On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:23:30 +1000, "mkosca" > <mark@NOSPAMlogichip.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > >. Saddam and Al Qaeda had no links, they were poles apart on > > > >ideology. > > > > > > Really? It is odd that Sadaam hosted their training camps in > Iraq. I don't > > > regard any terrorists as `poles apart' from another > terrorist. > > > > Really Sherlock? Those camps were in the Northern "No Fly Zone" > under > > constant US and Brithish observation. So who supported these > ALLEGED > > terrorist camps again?? > > > > So by your logic the USA is the same as Al Qaeda, France, > Russia etc? > > Just because you don't know of the terrorist measures supported > by the > > USA and other world government does not mean they don't exist. > Oh > > thats right you brainwash yourself into thinking it's ok for us > to > > kill and torture "we're the good guys" > > > > My suggestion is to buy yourself a copy of Rogue State by > William > > Blum, perhaps you could contribute something more sensible to > the > > discussion that pure ideologue. > > Doug Says: The terrorist training camp at Salman Pak (just south > of Baghdad) trained Al Qaeda operatives. Further, Amb. Beamer > said in a live interview the Iraqi POW's are testifying they had > been training with Al Qaeda for years, and Al Qeada was fighting > right along side of them during the Iraqi liberation. > > Doug Grant (Tm) > > hoohoohooh... hi hi hi hi hi... hoo hoo hoo hoo... ha ha ha ha ha Doug,,, you killing me over here... :-) -- NBT
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