<rander3127@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Your ammunition running so low you have to fabricate now?

One of the (many - and it's a long list) problems with you idiot no-brain
right-wingers: the inability to comprehend irony.

-b

Because Anne Coulter is a liar.
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"SPQR" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Corrector" <nojunk@all.thanks> wrote in message
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> > "Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > newse12gvo35fo68l5frj5qsa1sb0fa3qak09@4ax.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > Looks like they let Ann Coulter out of the ol' padded cell just in
> > > time to promote her latest cavalcade of crap, Treason: Liberal
> > > Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism.
> > >
> > > In her latest effort (the follow-up to Slander: Liberal Lies About The
> > > America Right) Ann claims that Joe McCarthy - you know, the jolly
> > > Senator who came up with such great ideas as the House Un-American
> > > Activities Committee
> >
> > Apparently you haven't grasped that the HOUSE Un-American Activities
> > Committee could not possibly have been a "great idea" of SENATOR Joe
> > McCarthy or anyone else in the U.S. Senate.
> >
> > In fact, HUAC was formed in the 1930s, long before Joe McCarthy entered
> > Congress. Its first chairman was a Democrat named Martin Dies.
> >
> >
> > > and the blacklisting of left-wingers - was right
> > > all along.
> >
> > HUAC investigated both left-wingers and right-wingers. In the late 1930s
> > they were mostly investigating possible German-American connections to
the
> > Nazis. They also investigated the Ku Klux Klan. After WWII the Nazis
were no
> > longer a threat, but communists were very much so. And yes, Joe McCarthy
> > "was right all along"--no one in his right mind argues against the
facts,
> > that the U.S. government was heavily infiltrated by communist spies,
many of
> > them at the highest levels of government. That's what McCarthy said and
as
> > we now know it was true.
>
>
> Oh, really?
>
> All we know is that the names of some US officials showed up in
> message traffic from the Soviet Embassy to Moscow. US government
> officials meet with Russian government officials every day. And the
> Russian officials report back to Moscow on their meetings.
>
> I served over 30 years in the federal government, 20 of those years in
> Embassy assignments overseas where I met daily with officials of the
> host country. Every meeting was reported back to Washington. My
> reports included the names and identifications of the host country
> officials with whom I met. They told me all sorts of stuff -- most of
> which I could get from the local newspapers. Were they spies?
> Hardly. And that's what shows up in the Venona Project -- reports
> from Soviet officials about meetings with US officials.
>
> By the way, if we were so infiltrated with "Russian spies," why did
> they collapse and not us?
>
> >>>>
> SPQR
> <<<<

rander3127@rogers.com wrote:
> Your ammunition running so low you have to fabricate now?
> Typical leftist propagandist. You people claim to despise Nazis,
> but you certainly take a leaf from their books on how to mislead
> the public.

Be sure to check out Richard Cohen's piece in today's NY Daily News,
hardly a liberal rag, for his opinion of Ms. Coulter and her newest
book. Hint: he's underwhelmed.

Corrector wrote:
> "Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> newse12gvo35fo68l5frj5qsa1sb0fa3qak09@4ax.com...
>
>>
>>Looks like they let Ann Coulter out of the ol' padded cell just in
>>time to promote her latest cavalcade of crap, Treason: Liberal
>>Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism.
>>
>>In her latest effort (the follow-up to Slander: Liberal Lies About The
>>America Right) Ann claims that Joe McCarthy - you know, the jolly
>>Senator who came up with such great ideas as the House Un-American
>>Activities Committee
>
> Apparently you haven't grasped that the HOUSE Un-American Activities
> Committee could not possibly have been a "great idea" of SENATOR Joe
> McCarthy or anyone else in the U.S. Senate.

True

> In fact, HUAC was formed in the 1930s, long before Joe McCarthy entered
> Congress. Its first chairman was a Democrat named Martin Dies.
>
>>and the blacklisting of left-wingers - was right
>>all along.
>
> HUAC investigated both left-wingers and right-wingers. In the late 1930s
> they were mostly investigating possible German-American connections to the
> Nazis. They also investigated the Ku Klux Klan. After WWII the Nazis were no
> longer a threat, but communists were very much so. And yes, Joe McCarthy
> "was right all along"--no one in his right mind argues against the facts,
> that the U.S. government was heavily infiltrated by communist spies, many of
> them at the highest levels of government. That's what McCarthy said and as
> we now know it was true.

LOL! What the devil are you smoking?

The current "neocons" won't defend Hitler, they just claim ol' Adolph
was a leftiest.

The hard right finally dumbs out

by Richard Cohen

I am happy to report that Ann Coulter has lost her mind. The evidence for
this is her most recent book, "Treason," a nearly unreadable slog through
every silly thing anyone on the left has ever said.
Coulter conflates dissent with treason, opposition with treason, being wrong
with treason, being right with treason and just about anything she doesn't
like with treason. If the book were a Rorschach test, she would be
institutionalized.

My glee in reporting that Coulter is daft is predicated on the prediction
that her book, like her previous one, will be a best seller. This is
invariably the case with rants from the right. They tell the majority
(nonliberals) that they are being controlled by the minority (liberals) and
that most of the country's important institutions, particularly the press,
are in the hands of leftists.

Coulter has now taken this argument one step further. This wee minority is
not merely wrong. It is traitorous.

She says The New York Times "issues traitorous editorials." She says
"liberals relentlessly attack their own country, but we can't call them
traitors, which they manifestly are." "Free speech," which those canny
liberals often cite to justify their wacko ideas, "is a one-way ratchet for
traitors," and "liberals have a preternatural gift for striking a position
on the side of treason." The book is a hoot.

It is also good news for liberals. It suggests that the right, at least the
hard right, has finally dumbed out. This is the predictable cycle for all
movements. They start with a genuine grievance and proceed from there to the
totally ridiculous.

In some ways, the nutso American brand of archconservatism mirrors
traditional anti-Semitism. Jew-haters proclaim that Jews control the media,
international finance and almost everything else of importance - but somehow
have accumulated a 2,000-year history of expulsions, pogroms and, finally,
the Holocaust. It is the same with liberals. They control everything, and
yet somehow the White House, both houses of Congress and, with the exception
of several New York delis, virtually the entire business community are in
the hands of conservatives. It's hard to figure.

Now Coulter has gone from the mythical to the absurd. Nonconservatives are
traitors. In another age, the remedy would be apparent: expulsion or
something like it. Since this is America, the best she can muster is scorn,
ad hominem arguments and the shrapnel of quotes she accumulates after she
has exploded their context.

Fairness compels me to say Coulter scores some points. Parts of the left
were unaccountably naive about communism, and as recently as the run-up to
the Iraq war, some of these same people manifested an almost compulsive need
to blame America for almost everything wrong in the world.

But I think she sometimes gives the left too much credit. "The left cut down
a brave man," she writes about Sen. Joe McCarthy, forgetting that the ol'
redbaiter was censured only after he tangled with the Eisenhower
administration.

When her book reaches the best-seller list, as it surely will, we'll know
the conservative movement has cracked up. Happy days are here again.

Originally published on June 30, 2003

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/col/...1p-87861c.html


"Gus" <GusPod@XXX.optonline.net> wrote in message
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> rander3127@rogers.com wrote:
> > Your ammunition running so low you have to fabricate now?
> > Typical leftist propagandist. You people claim to despise Nazis,
> > but you certainly take a leaf from their books on how to mislead
> > the public.
>
> Be sure to check out Richard Cohen's piece in today's NY Daily News,
> hardly a liberal rag, for his opinion of Ms. Coulter and her newest
> book. Hint: he's underwhelmed.
>

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 12:20:31 GMT, Gus <GusPod@XXX.optonline.net>
wrote:

>rander3127@rogers.com wrote:
>> Your ammunition running so low you have to fabricate now?
>> Typical leftist propagandist. You people claim to despise Nazis,
>> but you certainly take a leaf from their books on how to mislead
>> the public.
>
>Be sure to check out Richard Cohen's piece in today's NY Daily News,
>hardly a liberal rag, for his opinion of Ms. Coulter and her newest
>book. Hint: he's underwhelmed.

Great piece. Thanks for the tip.

Harry

"SPQR" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Corrector" <nojunk@all.thanks> wrote in message
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> > "Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > newse12gvo35fo68l5frj5qsa1sb0fa3qak09@4ax.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > Looks like they let Ann Coulter out of the ol' padded cell just in
> > > time to promote her latest cavalcade of crap, Treason: Liberal
> > > Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism.
> > >
> > > In her latest effort (the follow-up to Slander: Liberal Lies About The
> > > America Right) Ann claims that Joe McCarthy - you know, the jolly
> > > Senator who came up with such great ideas as the House Un-American
> > > Activities Committee
> >
> > Apparently you haven't grasped that the HOUSE Un-American Activities
> > Committee could not possibly have been a "great idea" of SENATOR Joe
> > McCarthy or anyone else in the U.S. Senate.
> >
> > In fact, HUAC was formed in the 1930s, long before Joe McCarthy entered
> > Congress. Its first chairman was a Democrat named Martin Dies.
> >
> >
> > > and the blacklisting of left-wingers - was right
> > > all along.
> >
> > HUAC investigated both left-wingers and right-wingers. In the late 1930s
> > they were mostly investigating possible German-American connections to
the
> > Nazis. They also investigated the Ku Klux Klan. After WWII the Nazis
were no
> > longer a threat, but communists were very much so. And yes, Joe McCarthy
> > "was right all along"--no one in his right mind argues against the
facts,
> > that the U.S. government was heavily infiltrated by communist spies,
many of
> > them at the highest levels of government. That's what McCarthy said and
as
> > we now know it was true.
>
>
> Oh, really?
>
> All we know is that the names of some US officials showed up in
> message traffic from the Soviet Embassy to Moscow.

Oh, I think we know a lot more than that.

Most famously, of course, we know about Alger Hiss and his conviction; we
know about Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, communist spies convicted and
executed. There were plenty of others.


> US government
> officials meet with Russian government officials every day. And the
> Russian officials report back to Moscow on their meetings.
>
> I served over 30 years in the federal government, 20 of those years in
> Embassy assignments overseas where I met daily with officials of the
> host country. Every meeting was reported back to Washington. My
> reports included the names and identifications of the host country
> officials with whom I met. They told me all sorts of stuff -- most of
> which I could get from the local newspapers. Were they spies?
> Hardly. And that's what shows up in the Venona Project -- reports
> from Soviet officials about meetings with US officials.
>
> By the way, if we were so infiltrated with "Russian spies," why did
> they collapse and not us?

You are implying that their failure to win the cold war proves that the
Soviets never used spies against us? That begs the question, don't you
think?