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[1] Posted by Alric Knebel 06-24-2003, 09:29 PM |
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"JJWHITEJR" <jjwhitejr2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3ef8241e.4775295@news.sf.sbcglobal.net... > Janeane Garofalo Picks Apart Patriots > > Janeane Garofalo appears to be living out some sort of paranoid > fantasy. She continues to squawk publicly that the reason she lost > some acting roles was because of her anti-war statements. > > Guess she's referring to the last-minute decision by ABC to chuck her > proposed sitcom, despite the fact that cancellations in Tinseltown are > as common as birthday adjustments and doctored photos. > > Strangely enough, Garofalo bragged back in April that her appeasement > activism had boosted her career. She gloated that "the positives have > far outweighed the negatives. Before this I was a moderately > well-known character actress. Now I'm almost famous." > > She even dared people to try to get her series cancelled. "Boycotters > are welcome to keep giving me tons of publicity," she said before > reiterating, "There will be no apologies." > > At a recent gathering for a new Miramax publication, Garofalo said she > didn't mind. According to the New York Post, the comedian takes > comfort in the fact that she won't work with people she disparagingly > calls patriots. > > Garofalo describes patriots as those who are "dumb and mean." > > The Left Coast Report says: way to go to get more work, Garofalo. She WAS canceled because of her activism. ABC was inundated with negative mail against her upcoming series. And most of the time, the people calling themselves patriots are just what she said they are, dumb and mean. These are people who've usurped the term "patriot," as opposed to what real patriots are. This is nothing new. The same thing went on in the 50s. The repression eventually gave way to the 60s. Alric |
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[2] Posted by rander3127@rogers.com 06-24-2003, 10:25 PM |
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 19:29:11 -0500, "Alric Knebel"
<alric_j@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >"JJWHITEJR" <jjwhitejr2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:3ef8241e.4775295@news.sf.sbcglobal.net... >> Janeane Garofalo Picks Apart Patriots >> >> Janeane Garofalo appears to be living out some sort of paranoid >> fantasy. She continues to squawk publicly that the reason she lost >> some acting roles was because of her anti-war statements. >> >> Guess she's referring to the last-minute decision by ABC to chuck her >> proposed sitcom, despite the fact that cancellations in Tinseltown are >> as common as birthday adjustments and doctored photos. >> >> Strangely enough, Garofalo bragged back in April that her appeasement >> activism had boosted her career. She gloated that "the positives have >> far outweighed the negatives. Before this I was a moderately >> well-known character actress. Now I'm almost famous." >> >> She even dared people to try to get her series cancelled. "Boycotters >> are welcome to keep giving me tons of publicity," she said before >> reiterating, "There will be no apologies." >> >> At a recent gathering for a new Miramax publication, Garofalo said she >> didn't mind. According to the New York Post, the comedian takes >> comfort in the fact that she won't work with people she disparagingly >> calls patriots. >> >> Garofalo describes patriots as those who are "dumb and mean." >> >> The Left Coast Report says: way to go to get more work, Garofalo. > >She WAS canceled because of her activism. ABC was inundated with negative >mail against her upcoming series. And most of the time, the people calling >themselves patriots are just what she said they are, dumb and mean. These >are people who've usurped the term "patriot," as opposed to what real >patriots are. This is nothing new. The same thing went on in the 50s. The >repression eventually gave way to the 60s. > >Alric > > Yes, and we all know what great time that was. Peace, love, race riots, a wasted generation. The 60's was an aberration and an abomination. -Rich |
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[3] Posted by Mitchell Holman 06-24-2003, 10:51 PM |
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rander3127@rogers.com wrote in
news:8fuhfv0rr6vtbd8kbacj7rt99jc3jodi55@4ax.com: > >> > > Yes, and we all know what great time that was. > Peace, love, race riots, a wasted generation. > The 60's was an aberration and an abomination. > -Rich Indeed. Civil rights, women's rights, curbing pollution, protecting endangered species, and getting out of Vietnam were such "abominable" causes, weren't they..... Which of them do you want to reverse first? |
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[4] Posted by rander3127@rogers.com 06-24-2003, 11:50 PM |
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 01:51:15 GMT, Mitchell Holman
<ta2eeneNoSpam@attbi.com> wrote: >rander3127@rogers.com wrote in >news:8fuhfv0rr6vtbd8kbacj7rt99jc3jodi55@4ax.com : > >> >>> >> >> Yes, and we all know what great time that was. >> Peace, love, race riots, a wasted generation. >> The 60's was an aberration and an abomination. >> -Rich > > > Indeed. Civil rights, women's rights, >curbing pollution, protecting endangered >species, and getting out of Vietnam were >such "abominable" causes, weren't they..... > > Which of them do you want to reverse first? The beginnings of the shift of American industry out of country, the failure to prosecute the war in Vietnam to a win, the creation of chronic inflation, civil rights coupled with a massive increase in the welfare state which in-part have given us the disaster that is the Black community today. The rapid rise of all types of crime until films like "Death Wish" and "Dirty Harry" appeared and appealed to massive public outrage. -Rich |
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[5] Posted by DTJ 06-25-2003, 03:55 PM |
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 02:50:21 GMT, rander3127@rogers.com wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 01:51:15 GMT, Mitchell Holman ><ta2eeneNoSpam@attbi.com> wrote: > >>rander3127@rogers.com wrote in >>news:8fuhfv0rr6vtbd8kbacj7rt99jc3jodi55@4ax.com: >> >>> >>>> >>> >>> Yes, and we all know what great time that was. >>> Peace, love, race riots, a wasted generation. >>> The 60's was an aberration and an abomination. >>> -Rich >> >> >> Indeed. Civil rights, women's rights, >>curbing pollution, protecting endangered >>species, and getting out of Vietnam were >>such "abominable" causes, weren't they..... >> >> Which of them do you want to reverse first? > >The beginnings of the shift of American industry >out of country, the failure to prosecute the war in >Vietnam to a win Actually, if you read real history, and not what the liberal media spouts, we did win Vietnam. Once a treaty was signed and we pulled out, the NV broke the treaty and attacked again. Since liberals in congress refused to support the South Vietnamese, they were quickly over run. This led to millions of cambodians being killed. Somehow, out of all of this, the liberal media still portrays liberals as compassionate. Please, liberals, don't be compassionate with me, I prefer to live. |
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[6] Posted by rander3127@rogers.com 06-25-2003, 06:43 PM |
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:21:41 GMT, Mitchell Holman
<ta2eeneNoSpam@attbi.com> wrote: >rander3127@rogers.com wrote in news:783ifv8g4hr6vl1bu9e8q35m08jdmts925@ >4ax.com: > >> On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 01:51:15 GMT, Mitchell Holman >> <ta2eeneNoSpam@attbi.com> wrote: >> >>>rander3127@rogers.com wrote in >>>news:8fuhfv0rr6vtbd8kbacj7rt99jc3jodi55@4ax.com : >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, and we all know what great time that was. >>>> Peace, love, race riots, a wasted generation. >>>> The 60's was an aberration and an abomination. >>>> -Rich >>> >>> >>> Indeed. Civil rights, women's rights, >>>curbing pollution, protecting endangered >>>species, and getting out of Vietnam were >>>such "abominable" causes, weren't they..... >>> >>> Which of them do you want to reverse first? >> >> The beginnings of the shift of American industry >> out of country, > > > That happened under Reagan. Really? Sony, Hitachi, Panasonic, Yamaha, etc, didn't start under Reagan. > > >> the failure to prosecute the war in >> Vietnam to a win, > > > That happened under Nixon. > No, Nixon won his election on a platform of ending the war. By the time Johnson and his incompetent micromanagement go through with it, winning Vietnam was out of the question. > >> the creation of chronic inflation, > > > That happened under Nixon. No, the underpinnings of inflation happened with the massive increase in capital spending under Johnson for his "Great Society" programs. > >> civil rights coupled with a massive increase in the >> welfare state which in-part have given us the disaster >> that is the Black community today. > > > Have you told Clarence Thomas and Colin >Powell about the "disaster of the black >community"? Sure, they present the "norm" don't they? > > >> The rapid rise of >> all types of crime > > > Yes, crime DID rise steadily under >Reagan and Bush, fell under Clinton, >and is rising again under Bush Jr. >See a pattern there, do you? The "Great Society" and the increase in the size of the welfare state increased crime. Things don't happen and then stop when a president changes. > >> until films like "Death Wish" and >> "Dirty Harry" appeared and appealed to massive >> public outrage. > > > Weren't you the ones condemning >violence in movies? And now you are >praising it? > I'm not condemning or praising it. I'm simply indicating WHY those movies caught the public's imagination. They were TIRED of being told they were responsible for the crimes being committed by warped members of the welfare state. > Consistency is not one of your >"family values", it seems.......... But for more "serious" movies than Dirty Harry or Death Wish dealing with concerns of people, we have....Legally Blond 2. How far we've come. -Rich > > > > > Mitchell Holman > > "We have to reduce the amount the amount of >violent movies that come out" > >Arnold Schwarzenegger, Nov 1996. In between making >violent movies himself, that is. > > |
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[7] Posted by Alric Knebel 06-25-2003, 07:24 PM |
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<rander3127@rogers.com> wrote: > > Yes, and we all know what great time that was. > Peace, love, race riots, a wasted generation. > The 60's was an aberration and an abomination. > -Rich Sometimes change has to be forced. It was the greatest decade of the last century. Women's rights, equal rights, an assertion of power by the people over the government (to some degree): all those things that democracy is supposed to deliver on its own. You're just too slope-skulled to understand the significance of it. Alric -- http://bellsouthpwp.net/a/l/alric/ ______________________________ |
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[8] Posted by Alric Knebel 06-25-2003, 07:25 PM |
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<rander3127@rogers.com> wrote in message news:783ifv8g4hr6vl1bu9e8q35m08jdmts925@4ax.com... > On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 01:51:15 GMT, Mitchell Holman > <ta2eeneNoSpam@attbi.com> wrote: > > >rander3127@rogers.com wrote in > >news:8fuhfv0rr6vtbd8kbacj7rt99jc3jodi55@4ax.com : > > > >> > >>> > >> > >> Yes, and we all know what great time that was. > >> Peace, love, race riots, a wasted generation. > >> The 60's was an aberration and an abomination. > >> -Rich > > > > > > Indeed. Civil rights, women's rights, > >curbing pollution, protecting endangered > >species, and getting out of Vietnam were > >such "abominable" causes, weren't they..... > > > > Which of them do you want to reverse first? > > The beginnings of the shift of American industry > out of country, the failure to prosecute the war in > Vietnam to a win, the creation of chronic inflation, > civil rights coupled with a massive increase in the > welfare state which in-part have given us the disaster > that is the Black community today. The rapid rise of > all types of crime until films like "Death Wish" and > "Dirty Harry" appeared and appealed to massive > public outrage. > -Rich You're blaming the shift of American industry on the 60s? You really are a dufus. Alric |
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[9] Posted by Alric Knebel 06-25-2003, 07:32 PM |
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"DTJ" <nospaming@attbi.com> wrote: > > Actually, if you read real history, and not what the liberal media > spouts, we did win Vietnam. Once a treaty was signed and we pulled > out, the NV broke the treaty and attacked again. Since liberals in > congress refused to support the South Vietnamese, they were quickly > over run. > > This led to millions of cambodians being killed. > > Somehow, out of all of this, the liberal media still portrays liberals > as compassionate. > > Please, liberals, don't be compassionate with me, I prefer to live. Blah, blah, blah, liberal media this, liberal media that. You're a jackass. The war was bad for the people drafted to fight it, and the American people objected to it. That happens when your kids come home in boxes, along with some insurance money and a flag. I know two people from my neighborhood who were drafted and killed. The United States looked for a settlement that would look like the war was a draw. I can't remember the phrase right now. It was something like "retreat with dignity" or "withdrawal with honor" -- something like that. You need to get past this liberal media shit. If anything is going on, it's revision, and it's not by the liberal media. Alric -- http://bellsouthpwp.net/a/l/alric/ ______________________________ |
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[10] Posted by Alric Knebel 06-25-2003, 07:36 PM |
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<rander3127@rogers.com> wrote: > > Go against Liberals when they are in power and you'll really see how > compassionate they are.  > -Rich You guys keep putting down "compassionate," yet we're getting a good dose of "compassionate conservatism" right now. People like Garofalo, for instance, or seeing just what happens when right-wing loons take control: Shut up and march. Liberals ARE compassionate, and we believe in it, but your right-wing loon talking heads keep telling you otherwise, because we have the moral highground, and you're a bunch of whiners saying -- without actually saying it -- compassion costs too much. Alric |
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