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[1] Posted by OptIn 06-22-2003, 02:24 PM
 
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xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton) wrote:
>
> On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 11:48:02 +1200,
> Anonymous Loser <no@spam.com> wrote:
> > Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
> >> Anonymous Loser <no@spam.com> wrote:
> >>> Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
> >>>> Anonymous Coward "thisisme" <thisisme374@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> "Reptile944" <reptile944@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> Anonymous Coward "thisisme" <thisisme374@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> "Reptile944" <reptile944@aol.com> wrote:

>
>
> [ ... ]
>
> >>>>>>>> Craig is *dead on* in all of his writings. He is not only well educated,
> >>>>>>>> but absolutely faithful in his execution of getting the truth out to public,
> >>>>>>>> concerning the interference and the unwarrented hypocricy of the
> >>>>>>>> anti-choice movement. His dedication to the principals of individual
> >>>>>>>> freedom of choice and the sacroscent principals of bodily autonomy
> >>>>>>>> for BORN and SENTINENT beings is unwavering, which is more than
> >>>>>>>> I can say for the often vascilating positions of the anti-choice
> >>>>>>>> proponents.

>
> >>>>>>> He's a nut.

>
> >>>>>> And that is exactly what some of us think of you. Next?

>
> >>>>> He's still a nut.

>
> >>>> I'm very GLAD that YOU feel that way, since you are the supporter of
> >>>> a totally sociopathic and loathesome, bigoted agenda that has absolutely
> >>>> NO redeeming social value wharsoever. As MOST Americans recognize,
> >>>> making Anyi-Choice the laughingstock of THIS era, JUST as segregation
> >>>> was the laughingstock of ITS day, 40 years earlier.

>
> >>> See? You're a nut. Half of this BS is just you trying to convince
> >>> yourself of it.

>
> >> YOU are the one seeking to FORCE all women, whrther they want to or
> >> not, to gestate to term, and DENY them the remedy of abortion. Which
> >> would be a very REAL, 9-month-long form of RAPE. That clearly makes
> >> *you* a nut. A very sociopathic one.

>
> >>>> Thus, for you to regard me as a "nut" simply CONFIRMS that I am
> >>>> doing an effective job of exposing Anti-Choice for the hateful agenda
> >>>> that it is.

>
> >>> Not at all. You just assume that everyone loves your posts as much
> >>> as you do. You're even blind to the words that other pro-aborts have
> >>> had in condemning your stupidity.

>
> >> First off -- there's no such thing as a "pro-abort." So THANKS for
> >> this further proof of your ignorance.
> >>
> >> Secondly, lots of luck in FINDING the "condemnation" from my
> >> fellow Pro-CHOICERS.

>
> > I seem to remember this guy pointing out how weak and false your
> > "arguments" are:
> >
> >http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...utput=gpl ain
> >
> >I agree.

>
> Interesting! He said, in that post:
>
> "That doesn't mean that the Bible explicitly condemns
> abortion, or confers the same sort of status on the unborn
> as it does on the born. Indeed, the one passage that
> specifies a penalty for destroying a fetus indicates to me
> that they are not as significant as people, but are more
> like property."
>
> ...which, except that he said it in his own words, is EXACTLY a
> point that *I* make in my posts with some frequency.
>
> Matt Pillsbury is an astute Pro-Choicer who simply has a perspective
> on SOME aspects which are somewhat different from mine, but those are
> very SLIGHT and inconsequential differences, given the big picture.
>
> He also said, in the above-cited post:
>
> "...one thing that you might want to consider is that even
> battling 'pro-life' political efforts in not war. One of the
> problems with American political thought as it now stands is
> that nothing can be done without declaring "war" on
> something -- as if a war on poverty, or drugs, or now terror
> could possibly mean anything, or possibly be won."
>
> And I would partially disagree with him on that, citing segregation
> as an example. The segregationists were EQUALLY loathesome in terms
> of their bigotry and ignorance, as are today's Anti-Choicers. And the
> Civil rights workers DID wage war on segregation... and they WON.
> Segregation has been extinct now for 38 years. I see no reason to
> believe that the Anti-Choice agenda's suffering the SAME fate is anything
> less than imminent, over just the next few years. (And MOST of that war
> was won with Roe vs. Wade. Until extinction for Anti-Choice comes, we
> Pro-Choicers are primarily DEFENDING that freedom which has already
> been won.
>
> >> To see what my fellow Pro-Choicers DO think of my
> >> dedication to help America someday become a bigotry-free zone, you
> >> need look no farther than the statement made at the top of THIS post --
> >> by "Reptile944." (Which proves, quite clearly, what a LIAR you
> >> are. (But that won't be a surprise to most people in here.))

>
> >>>> I would be very worried if people like YOU **didn't** think
> >>>> of me as you do.
> >>>>
> >>>> In short -- thanks for the ENCOURAGEMENT!! You just
> >>>> made my day!!

>
> >>> Great... He just helped you dig the hole for yourself even deeper.

>
> >> Yep. To precisely the SAME degree that I did when I was a Civil
> >> Rights activist in 1963, and was being called, "Northern Agitator,"
> >> "ni**er-lover," and a hundred other hate-terms by the segregationist
> >> bigots. THEY made my day by doing that too, as I *helped* THEIR
> >> sociopathic and loathesome agenda to circle the drain, heading for
> >> extinction just as surely as YOURS currently is.
> >>
> >> You see, I've SEEN your ilk before. 40 years ago in Mississippi.
> >>
> >> And IF those sociopaths had NOT called me all those names, I
> >> would have very justifiably been worried THEN, too. Because THAT
> >> would have told me I wasn't doing my job as a humanitarian and an
> >> egalitarian well enough.

>
> > I think this is what Papa Jack calls "strutting like a baby rooster".

>
> One of the MANY sorts of reasons that people in here regard him
> to be a total loon, and call him "Papa Jackass."
>
> >> Enjoy your loathesome agenda while you've still got it, because
> >> the Pro-Choice majority is escorting it to extinction just as surely and
> >> inexorably as the Civil Rights workers did the same to the equally-
> >> ignorant and loathesome agenda of the segregationists.

>
> > And yet for years, poll after poll demonstrates otherwise.

>
> Negative. Americans have CONSISTENTLY been Pro-Choice by
> a 2-1 ratio for more than 20 years.
>
> The DEFINITIVE poll was the general election of 1998, wherein
> Anti-Choice managed to get a proposed ban on ID&E abortion on the
> ballot as a referendum item in two whole STATES: Colorado and
> Washington. That's FAR better than the comparatively small samplings
> that polls take. It got the opinion of MILLIONS of voters. And they
> TROUNCED the proposal in BOTH states. It was an EXCELLENT proof
> that when Americans have the chance to do so, with respect to abortion
> the have NO desire to be control-freaks. It sounded a strong death knell
> for the Anti-Choice movement.
>
>
> -- Craig Chilton xanadu222@mchsi.com


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