On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 11:48:02 +1200,
Anonymous Loser <no@spam.com> wrote:
> Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
>> Anonymous Loser <no@spam.com> wrote:
>>> Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>> Anonymous Coward "thisisme" <thisisme374@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Reptile944" <reptile944@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Anonymous Coward "thisisme" <thisisme374@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "Reptile944" <reptile944@aol.com> wrote:


[ ... ]

>>>>>>>> Craig is *dead on* in all of his writings. He is not only well educated,
>>>>>>>> but absolutely faithful in his execution of getting the truth out to public,
>>>>>>>> concerning the interference and the unwarrented hypocricy of the
>>>>>>>> anti-choice movement. His dedication to the principals of individual
>>>>>>>> freedom of choice and the sacroscent principals of bodily autonomy
>>>>>>>> for BORN and SENTINENT beings is unwavering, which is more than
>>>>>>>> I can say for the often vascilating positions of the anti-choice
>>>>>>>> proponents.

>>>>>>> He's a nut.

>>>>>> And that is exactly what some of us think of you. Next?

>>>>> He's still a nut.

>>>> I'm very GLAD that YOU feel that way, since you are the supporter of
>>>> a totally sociopathic and loathesome, bigoted agenda that has absolutely
>>>> NO redeeming social value wharsoever. As MOST Americans recognize,
>>>> making Anyi-Choice the laughingstock of THIS era, JUST as segregation
>>>> was the laughingstock of ITS day, 40 years earlier.

>>> See? You're a nut. Half of this BS is just you trying to convince
>>> yourself of it.

>> YOU are the one seeking to FORCE all women, whrther they want to or
>> not, to gestate to term, and DENY them the remedy of abortion. Which
>> would be a very REAL, 9-month-long form of RAPE. That clearly makes
>> *you* a nut. A very sociopathic one.

>>>> Thus, for you to regard me as a "nut" simply CONFIRMS that I am
>>>> doing an effective job of exposing Anti-Choice for the hateful agenda
>>>> that it is.

>>> Not at all. You just assume that everyone loves your posts as much
>>> as you do. You're even blind to the words that other pro-aborts have
>>> had in condemning your stupidity.

>> First off -- there's no such thing as a "pro-abort." So THANKS for
>> this further proof of your ignorance.
>>
>> Secondly, lots of luck in FINDING the "condemnation" from my
>> fellow Pro-CHOICERS.

> I seem to remember this guy pointing out how weak and false your
> "arguments" are:
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...utput=gpl ain
>
>I agree.

Interesting! He said, in that post:

"That doesn't mean that the Bible explicitly condemns
abortion, or confers the same sort of status on the unborn
as it does on the born. Indeed, the one passage that
specifies a penalty for destroying a fetus indicates to me
that they are not as significant as people, but are more
like property."

...which, except that he said it in his own words, is EXACTLY a
point that *I* make in my posts with some frequency.

Matt Pillsbury is an astute Pro-Choicer who simply has a perspective
on SOME aspects which are somewhat different from mine, but those are
very SLIGHT and inconsequential differences, given the big picture.

He also said, in the above-cited post:

"...one thing that you might want to consider is that even
battling 'pro-life' political efforts in not war. One of the
problems with American political thought as it now stands is
that nothing can be done without declaring "war" on
something -- as if a war on poverty, or drugs, or now terror
could possibly mean anything, or possibly be won."

And I would partially disagree with him on that, citing segregation
as an example. The segregationists were EQUALLY loathesome in terms
of their bigotry and ignorance, as are today's Anti-Choicers. And the
Civil rights workers DID wage war on segregation... and they WON.
Segregation has been extinct now for 38 years. I see no reason to
believe that the Anti-Choice agenda's suffering the SAME fate is anything
less than imminent, over just the next few years. (And MOST of that war
was won with Roe vs. Wade. Until extinction for Anti-Choice comes, we
Pro-Choicers are primarily DEFENDING that freedom which has already
been won.

>> To see what my fellow Pro-Choicers DO think of my
>> dedication to help America someday become a bigotry-free zone, you
>> need look no farther than the statement made at the top of THIS post --
>> by "Reptile944." (Which proves, quite clearly, what a LIAR you
>> are. (But that won't be a surprise to most people in here.))

>>>> I would be very worried if people like YOU **didn't** think
>>>> of me as you do.
>>>>
>>>> In short -- thanks for the ENCOURAGEMENT!! You just
>>>> made my day!!

>>> Great... He just helped you dig the hole for yourself even deeper.

>> Yep. To precisely the SAME degree that I did when I was a Civil
>> Rights activist in 1963, and was being called, "Northern Agitator,"
>> "ni**er-lover," and a hundred other hate-terms by the segregationist
>> bigots. THEY made my day by doing that too, as I *helped* THEIR
>> sociopathic and loathesome agenda to circle the drain, heading for
>> extinction just as surely as YOURS currently is.
>>
>> You see, I've SEEN your ilk before. 40 years ago in Mississippi.
>>
>> And IF those sociopaths had NOT called me all those names, I
>> would have very justifiably been worried THEN, too. Because THAT
>> would have told me I wasn't doing my job as a humanitarian and an
>> egalitarian well enough.

> I think this is what Papa Jack calls "strutting like a baby rooster".

One of the MANY sorts of reasons that people in here regard him
to be a total loon, and call him "Papa Jackass."

>> Enjoy your loathesome agenda while you've still got it, because
>> the Pro-Choice majority is escorting it to extinction just as surely and
>> inexorably as the Civil Rights workers did the same to the equally-
>> ignorant and loathesome agenda of the segregationists.

> And yet for years, poll after poll demonstrates otherwise.

Negative. Americans have CONSISTENTLY been Pro-Choice by
a 2-1 ratio for more than 20 years.

The DEFINITIVE poll was the general election of 1998, wherein
Anti-Choice managed to get a proposed ban on ID&E abortion on the
ballot as a referendum item in two whole STATES: Colorado and
Washington. That's FAR better than the comparatively small samplings
that polls take. It got the opinion of MILLIONS of voters. And they
TROUNCED the proposal in BOTH states. It was an EXCELLENT proof
that when Americans have the chance to do so, with respect to abortion
the have NO desire to be control-freaks. It sounded a strong death knell
for the Anti-Choice movement.


-- Craig Chilton xanadu222@mchsi.com