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[1] Posted by Tony Sr. 09-15-2005, 10:47 AM |
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TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED the 1930's 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's !!
First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they carried us. They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can, and didn't get tested for diabetes. Then after that trauma, our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paints. We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking. As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags. Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat. We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle. We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this. We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank soda pop with sugar in it, but we weren't overweight because WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING! We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on. No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K. We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem. We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no 99 channels on cable, no video tape movies, no surround sound, no cell phones, no personal computers, no Internet or Internet chat rooms..........WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them! We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents. We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever. We were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays, made up games with sticks and tennis balls and although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes. We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just walked in and talked to them! Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!! The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law! This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever! The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned HOW TO DEAL WITH IT ALL! And YOU are one of them! CONGRATULATIONS! You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated our lives for our own good. and while you are at it, forward it to your kids so they will know how brave their parents were. Kind of makes you want to run through the house with scissors, doesn't it? |
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[2] Posted by Tom Greening 09-15-2005, 12:27 PM |
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I just did a job in Texas not too long ago, and I was down there 5 weeks
living in a motel away from my family doing 12hr days/6 days a week on an outside job in weather pushing 100 deg. +. It was one of those jobs where you have JUST enough manpower to get things done (barely) and everyone has to pull their weight or the whole thing breaks down. Second shift is late and I call to find out WHY since at the end of 12 hrs of busting your ass in that heat the LAST thing you want to hear is "we're going to be late". Turns out one of the crew (some single early 20-something) decided he wasn't coming in to work because he "didn't feel good". Need to go to the hospital? "Nope". What's the problem? "Just don't feel good". Oh, ok. Well here is the deal. There are just enough guys to get this job done and unless you are dieing I need you here. I don't care if all you do is sit in a chair all night long but someone has to keep an eye on the other guy in case he gets into trouble (heat exhaustion) and hurts himself. Sit down all night and drink Gatorade, but keep an eye on your partner. "Gee, I don't know what to tell you, I don't feel good". WRONG Effin answer. At that point Mr. Nice Guy left and Total Flippin Asshole showed up and told that guy that if his ass didn't get in to work he was fired, needed to vacate his nice comfy air-conditioned motel room and could find his own Effin way back to Ohio. He came to work. (Partner tells me later the guy wasn't really sick, he was just tired of the pace and wanted to rest). A day later he proceeds to tell me that I was "uncool" for threatening to leave him stranded in Texas with no way home to Ohio (never mind that it was ok for him to leave ME stranded on this job with no reasonable way to run the second shift. No WAY could we have a guy working by himself on this job. Welding on a 500,000# hunk of steel that is 900 degrees, in 100 deg heat is NOT safe to do alone.) Anyhow, I'm uncool and, get this, he was doing me a FAVOR by being down there to do this job. ExCUSE me? Doing me a favor? I told him the last I knew he was getting paid to do his JOB and that if he was willing to do it for FREE then we could discuss the definition of favor. For once I am totally with you on something Tony. People can say what they want but youth of today just don't have the same standards of yesterday. There is no respect for authority, no commitment to a job, and barely respect for their parents or elders. Not in daily society, that's for sure. I know they have it in them because kids like that are doing a bang-up job every single day over in that infested desert shithole, and dieing for their trouble. So what is wrong with the ones back here? I know I'm going to get whining from the audience to tell me how full of it I am and that "I am NOT kind of person". Well YOU may not be but I've got news for you, way too many of your contemporaries are. I see it every single day when they walk into my office looking for a job. Asking for a job with their pants around their ankles, hats on sideways, hands and twisted fingers waving every which way as they speak because they apparently can't string a coherent sentence together without this visual aid. News flash fellas, if you want to be taken seriously then you should at least make an attempt to LOOK like you are serious and not like some ill-educated finger pointing hip-hop wannabe. "Tony Sr." <amargio1@cox.net> wrote in message news:aXeWe.79934$DW1.5036@fed1read06... > TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED the 1930's 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's !! > First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they > carried us. > |
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[3] Posted by Hardtime 09-15-2005, 01:44 PM |
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Very true. I did not make the 30's or 40's but you covered the jest
of it all. Kids are now taught to turn their parents in for any form of Child Abuse. I told my kids flat out that if they ever call HRS on me by time they arrived it would be a legitimate call (If you know what I mean). It is like the OJ Simpson thing after he was acquitted he faced the Civil Trial for the same murder(s). To me that is still Double Jeopardy and should not of happened. I did not go for either verdict as I did not vote either way. I do know though that if by chance I hurt someone and had to go to court and was released or punished that I should not be sued for the same thing. This is really getting to be a messed up society. I was one of the crazy country boys who lived near a swamp and had a blast. I could do whatever I wanted all day long and my parents never worried about me. Nowadays I worry about my kids just going over to a so called friends house. On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 06:47:10 -0700, "Tony Sr." <amargio1@cox.net> wrote: >TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED the 1930's 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's !! >First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they >carried us. > >They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can, and didn't get >tested for diabetes. > >Then after that trauma, our baby cribs were covered with bright colored >lead-based paints. > >We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we >rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took >hitchhiking. > >As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags. > >Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat. > >We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle. > >We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE >actually died from this. > >We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank soda pop with sugar >in it, but we weren't overweight because > >WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING! > >We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back >when the streetlights came on. > >No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K. > >We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down >the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the >bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem. > >We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no >99 channels on cable, no video tape movies, no surround sound, no cell > >phones, no personal computers, no Internet or Internet chat >rooms..........WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them! > >We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no >lawsuits from these accidents. > >We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us >forever. > >We were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays, > >made up games with sticks and tennis balls and although we were told it >would happen, we did not put out very many eyes. > >We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang > >the bell, or just walked in and talked to them! > >Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't >had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!! > >The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They >actually sided with the law! > >This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers >and inventors ever! > >The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas > >We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned > >HOW TO > >DEAL WITH IT ALL! > >And YOU are one of them! CONGRATULATIONS! > >You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as >kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated our lives for our own >good. > >and while you are at it, forward it to your kids so they will know how brave >their parents were. > >Kind of makes you want to run through the house with scissors, doesn't it? > > > > |
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[4] Posted by Mike Smith 09-15-2005, 02:14 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:27:35 GMT, "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com>
wrote: > > >WRONG Effin answer. At that point Mr. Nice Guy left and Total Flippin >Asshole showed up and told that guy that if his ass didn't get in to work he >was fired, needed to vacate his nice comfy air-conditioned motel room and >could find his own Effin way back to Ohio. He came to work. (Partner >tells me later the guy wasn't really sick, he was just tired of the pace and >wanted to rest). > I have found that, if "Mr Stark-raving Nutziod, foaming at the mouth, furiously mad" guy shows up once every 5-8 years, his reputation will carry you between the times when "that guy" has to make an appearance. It keeps the troups on their toes, if they know what might happen if the wrong button is pushed. Reputation is everything.  Also, now you know why July and August is considered our "off season", regarding paintball. Mike Smith |
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[5] Posted by John J. 09-15-2005, 10:38 PM |
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And how much do you pay these guys for risking their lives...
Just because someone doesn't go to the hospital doesn't mean they're well enough to work in those harsh conditions... John "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message news:HpgWe.22932$uD6.17618@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. .. >I just did a job in Texas not too long ago, and I was down there 5 weeks > living in a motel away from my family doing 12hr days/6 days a week on an > outside job in weather pushing 100 deg. +. It was one of those jobs > where > you have JUST enough manpower to get things done (barely) and everyone has > to pull their weight or the whole thing breaks down. > > Second shift is late and I call to find out WHY since at the end of 12 hrs > of busting your ass in that heat the LAST thing you want to hear is "we're > going to be late". Turns out one of the crew (some single early > 20-something) decided he wasn't coming in to work because he "didn't feel > good". > > Need to go to the hospital? "Nope". What's the problem? "Just don't > feel > good". Oh, ok. Well here is the deal. There are just enough guys to get > this job done and unless you are dieing I need you here. I don't care if > all you do is sit in a chair all night long but someone has to keep an eye > on the other guy in case he gets into trouble (heat exhaustion) and hurts > himself. Sit down all night and drink Gatorade, but keep an eye on your > partner. "Gee, I don't know what to tell you, I don't feel good". > > > WRONG Effin answer. At that point Mr. Nice Guy left and Total Flippin > Asshole showed up and told that guy that if his ass didn't get in to work > he > was fired, needed to vacate his nice comfy air-conditioned motel room and > could find his own Effin way back to Ohio. He came to work. (Partner > tells me later the guy wasn't really sick, he was just tired of the pace > and > wanted to rest). > > A day later he proceeds to tell me that I was "uncool" for threatening to > leave him stranded in Texas with no way home to Ohio (never mind that it > was > ok for him to leave ME stranded on this job with no reasonable way to run > the second shift. No WAY could we have a guy working by himself on this > job. Welding on a 500,000# hunk of steel that is 900 degrees, in 100 deg > heat is NOT safe to do alone.) > > Anyhow, I'm uncool and, get this, he was doing me a FAVOR by being down > there to do this job. ExCUSE me? Doing me a favor? I told him the > last > I knew he was getting paid to do his JOB and that if he was willing to do > it > for FREE then we could discuss the definition of favor. > > > For once I am totally with you on something Tony. People can say what > they > want but youth of today just don't have the same standards of yesterday. > There is no respect for authority, no commitment to a job, and barely > respect for their parents or elders. Not in daily society, that's for > sure. > > I know they have it in them because kids like that are doing a bang-up job > every single day over in that infested desert shithole, and dieing for > their > trouble. So what is wrong with the ones back here? > > I know I'm going to get whining from the audience to tell me how full of > it > I am and that "I am NOT kind of person". Well YOU may not be but I've got > news for you, way too many of your contemporaries are. I see it every > single day when they walk into my office looking for a job. Asking for a > job with their pants around their ankles, hats on sideways, hands and > twisted fingers waving every which way as they speak because they > apparently > can't string a coherent sentence together without this visual aid. News > flash fellas, if you want to be taken seriously then you should at least > make an attempt to LOOK like you are serious and not like some > ill-educated > finger pointing hip-hop wannabe. > > > > "Tony Sr." <amargio1@cox.net> wrote in message > news:aXeWe.79934$DW1.5036@fed1read06... >> TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED the 1930's 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's !! >> First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while > they >> carried us. >> > > |
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[6] Posted by Tom Greening 09-16-2005, 01:09 AM |
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None of your business frankly, and apparently you didn't read the part where
I said all he had to do was sit in a chair and keep an eye on his partner. I know when I'm being stroked. "John J." <detectorist@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5mpWe.69707$p_1.54413@tornado.tampabay.rr.com ... > And how much do you pay these guys for risking their lives... > > Just because someone doesn't go to the hospital doesn't mean they're well > enough to work in those harsh conditions... > > |
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[7] Posted by Tony Sr. 09-16-2005, 01:14 AM |
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TG, never a doubt...but don't agree with me cause people here may think we
know each other..hehehahaha :-) your good people even though this is the first time to agree with me. I have had my share of help like that also... "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message news:aArWe.11196$ib1.1658@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. . > None of your business frankly, and apparently you didn't read the part where > I said all he had to do was sit in a chair and keep an eye on his partner. > > I know when I'm being stroked. > > > "John J." <detectorist@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:5mpWe.69707$p_1.54413@tornado.tampabay.rr.com ... > > And how much do you pay these guys for risking their lives... > > > > Just because someone doesn't go to the hospital doesn't mean they're well > > enough to work in those harsh conditions... > > > > > > |
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[8] Posted by John J. 09-16-2005, 01:57 AM |
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I have no idea what you mean by being 'stroked'. I just posted an honest
question and an opinion to what I perceived to be an honest post and opinion on your part. So, when was the youth up to your expectations? 1960's ? 1950's? I'm sorry you're pissed that it's hard to find good help. Maybe a different attitude or higher wages would help. There's a lot of great youth around. Many of them are in Iraq. "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message news:aArWe.11196$ib1.1658@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. . > None of your business frankly, and apparently you didn't read the part > where > I said all he had to do was sit in a chair and keep an eye on his partner. > > I know when I'm being stroked. > > > "John J." <detectorist@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:5mpWe.69707$p_1.54413@tornado.tampabay.rr.com ... >> And how much do you pay these guys for risking their lives... >> >> Just because someone doesn't go to the hospital doesn't mean they're well >> enough to work in those harsh conditions... >> >> > > |
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[9] Posted by Jeff Goslin 09-16-2005, 02:25 AM |
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"John J." <detectorist@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:YgsWe.85435$xl6.65796@tornado.tampabay.rr.com ... > So, when was the youth up to your expectations? 1960's ? 1950's? > > I'm sorry you're pissed that it's hard to find good help. Maybe a different > attitude or higher wages would help. > > There's a lot of great youth around. Many of them are in Iraq. Dude. No. Don't even fuckin go there. If you want to have an argument about "these kids these days", I'll be happy to engage you on equal footing, but don't even ATTEMPT to bring in something so obviously inflammatory. First, those are professional soldiers, doing a job. They aren't there because they CHOSE to be, don't make that mistake, they are SOLDIERS because they chose to be. They were SENT to Iraq, they didn't have a choice as to whether or not to go, so don't even think that they are being all patriotic for being there. They are there because they were ordered to go there, and that's what soldiers do. Second, soldiers are not, ipso facto, the best of the best, when it comes to character. They are people, nothing more. They have the same failings, and the same strengths as any other sector of the population, character wise. Third, soldiers are NOT universally young. There are soldiers of ALL ages serving. As you can see, that sort of bullshit just won't fly here. Talk all you want about "them thar kids and their damn meddling" or whatever you want, just don't bring up totally irrelevant, emotionally engaging examples. -- Jeff Goslin - MCSD - www.goslin.info It's not a god complex when you're always right |
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[10] Posted by John J. 09-16-2005, 02:44 AM |
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"Second, soldiers are not, ipso facto, the best of the best, when it comes
to character. They are people, nothing more. They have the same failings, and the same strengths as any other sector of the population, character wise." Having worked extensively with troops, I can, without a doubt, state that yes, as a groop, soldiers have more character, dicipline, dedication, and maturity than the average guy on the street. I'm talking about the male troops. They have to be High School graduates. they can't have any felonies or serious misdemenors on their records. Look at the difference between them today and the VietNam era draftee. Any employer worth their salt knows this, Mr. MCSD. I know it. After going through basic, advanced, and all the other stuff they go through, most any civilian job is easy. Have you even been in the military yourself? John |
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