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[1] Posted by Hardtime 08-08-2005, 04:16 PM |
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Has bought, seen or heard of the new BT-16 Apex Barrel System w/
Adjustable Range Selector - Tippmann A5. I was curious as I have seen it advertised. If you have I am real curious on how it performs, please let us know. Hardtime http://www.geocities.com/arcticjohn88/arcticjohn88 |
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[2] Posted by Hardtime 08-08-2005, 10:31 PM |
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On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 19:16:02 GMT, Hardtime <hardtime11@hotmail.com>
wrote: >Has bought, seen or heard of the new BT-16 Apex Barrel System w/ >Adjustable Range Selector - Tippmann A5. I was curious as I have seen >it advertised. > >If you have I am real curious on how it performs, please let us know. > >Hardtime > >http://www.geocities.com/arcticjohn88/arcticjohn88 I have spoke with the Ben Tippmann Service Support and they advise that it is about 10.5 inches in length but that you can adjust the amount of backspin you can put on the ball as well as curving it to where you can take advantage of the ball backspin. It does not require a special shroud like the flatline does and they say it does not float the ball as bad at the end of it's range which according to the support desk is about 250', They say that they consistently get ball breaks at that distance also. It is also readily mountable on a lot of other markers. That is why I want to know, because if it is true I will probably get one. So far I can find them for $119 on the web, $139 at the BT Website. The only info so far is only what they have on the website. http://www.bentippmann.com/bt_newsite/index_big.html Hardtime http://www.geocities.com/arcticjohn88/arcticjohn88 |
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[3] Posted by glickstue@gmail.com 08-09-2005, 04:24 PM |
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The adjustable backspin idea dates back to the old Z-body automags,
they used a rubber nubing wich you could adjust the amount of resistance thus increasing or decreasing the amount of backspin. I'm not sure how the Apex works but it's most likely fairly simular. |
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[4] Posted by BaaL 08-09-2005, 05:16 PM |
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Hardtime <hardtime11@hotmail.com> has this craizy idea that:
/cut/ IMHO it's dumb even if it works (wich I seriously doubt, not in the way described in the adds anyway).... I mean if you're not able to manouver your way in to a good shooting position, and take someone out, and youre too lazy to learn and practice how it's done, than dont play paintball. It's what makes paintball "paintball". U need to use u're brain, tactics, speed, agility to outwit, outamneuver, and finally outgun your opponent. not just stand in the back of the field and shoot "behind" every bunker. Imagine if every player on the field had one of these "barrels"... how would that game look like... everybody standing in one place and shooting at/"behind" everything... stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid not to mention the fact that it cost more than most markers it will be used on.... BS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 --Â Once the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is no longer our friend. |
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[6] Posted by Hardtime 08-09-2005, 05:34 PM |
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On 9 Aug 2005 12:24:35 -0700, glickstue@gmail.com wrote:
>The adjustable backspin idea dates back to the old Z-body automags, >they used a rubber nubing wich you could adjust the amount of >resistance thus increasing or decreasing the amount of backspin. I'm >not sure how the Apex works but it's most likely fairly simular. Yes, according to the Support group that is pretty much how it works and you can actually vary the amount (ramp it) of backspin it has and then instead of turning the entire weapon like you do with the flatline you can actually turn the end of it to place it in the direction you want. That is what I mean if it is that adjustable/variable I will probably get one. My buddy has already ordered one and I am anxious to know how it really stacks up before I drop the paper notes for it. Hardtime http://www.geocities.com/arcticjohn88/arcticjohn88 |
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[7] Posted by Hardtime 08-09-2005, 05:56 PM |
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On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 22:19:31 +0200, "BaaL" <chosen_1SP@MMERSDIEvip.hr>
wrote: >BaaL <chosen_1SP@MMERSDIEvip.hr> has this craizy idea that: > >> Hardtime <hardtime11@hotmail.com> has this craizy idea that: >> >> /cut/ >> >sorry for the spelling :-) > > >--? >Once the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is no longer our friend. > No matter your spelling is still better than a couple that have been here lately. Turn your spell check on and never add to the dictionary just use ignore periodically. I asked for the opinion and I have yours. But I have been places that when you don't have a weapon to hit something in a certain position they create one. Look at the Real Military. I look at the APEX like this. It puts a new twist on the game. If one is being used against you it makes you think a little bit more and be a little more agile, quick and thinking of ways to take it out. I don't know if you have been in the military or not (I know not in combat) but you can think about it like a mortar or such. Remember though that when he is doing his tricks that you can easily step and take him straight (if your fast & agile). I only use the flatline twist against wipers/cheaters otherwise I am the straight on with the straight shot angles I don't know I just like the options. BT support said that it definitely reaches farther than the regular flatline and with consistent breaks. This might actually create somewhat more of a sniper barrel for those scenario games if you think about it. I am after the main point that it can get rid of the distant float perception that the flatline gives the balls. As far as price have you checked out the price of some of the MilSims that are applied to markers by scenario people, the price is actually nothing. My main complaint that I can see against the apex right now is when you chrono it I think it should be a rule that the apex functions should be turned off (the ramp) as this means that your velocity will never go beyond the unrestricted shot. I am sure that with the APEX turned on it will create a drag on the ball as to cut down the velocity. Or have the possibility of locking down the APEX ramp for comp use and then chrono it. Hardtime http://www.geocities.com/arcticjohn88/arcticjohn88 |
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[8] Posted by BaaL 08-10-2005, 06:19 AM |
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Hardtime <hardtime11@hotmail.com> has this craizy idea that:
> No matter your spelling is still better than a couple that have been > here lately. Turn your spell check on and never add to the dictionary > just use ignore periodically. > > I asked for the opinion and I have yours. But I have been places that > when you don't have a weapon to hit something in a certain position > they create one. Look at the Real Military. > > I look at the APEX like this. It puts a new twist on the game. If > one is being used against you it makes you think a little bit more and > be a little more agile, quick and thinking of ways to take it out. > > I don't know if you have been in the military or not (I know not in > combat) but you can think about it like a mortar or such. Remember > though that when he is doing his tricks that you can easily step and > take him straight (if your fast & agile). > > I only use the flatline twist against wipers/cheaters otherwise I am > the straight on with the straight shot angles > > I don't know I just like the options. BT support said that it > definitely reaches farther than the regular flatline and with > consistent breaks. This might actually create somewhat more of a > sniper barrel for those scenario games if you think about it. > > I am after the main point that it can get rid of the distant float > perception that the flatline gives the balls. > > As far as price have you checked out the price of some of the MilSims > that are applied to markers by scenario people, the price is actually > nothing. > fair enough ! :-) --Â Once the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is no longer our friend. |
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[9] Posted by Hardtime 08-10-2005, 08:50 AM |
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:19:21 +0200, "BaaL" <chosen_1SP@MMERSDIEvip.hr>
wrote: >Hardtime <hardtime11@hotmail.com> has this craizy idea that: > > >> No matter your spelling is still better than a couple that have been >> here lately. Turn your spell check on and never add to the dictionary >> just use ignore periodically. I still miss spell words from time to time. If I read when I am tired or been studying (trying to keep up with things, as an older dog :-)) I will mistakenly or automatically hit ignore to many times. Heck, I even like to miss spell words or use grammatical errors to get things going from time to time. You know what I mean? ;-) Hardtime http://www.geocities.com/arcticjohn88/arcticjohn88 |
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[10] Posted by Dan Martin 08-10-2005, 09:18 PM |
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So, it would look lke speedball?
ooh, look at the arrows commng towards me, pretty... Cheers Dan .. > Imagine if every player on the field had one of these "barrels"... how would > that game look like... everybody standing in one place and shooting > at/"behind" everything... |
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