Apex Barrel System??? - Page 2

DeathX · DeathX

I saw the advertisement in the latest issue of APG. There are four little
cartoons demonstrating the various uses of the barrel. I highly doubt that
it could work as pictured but its kind of funny. Could you imagine hiding
behind a bunker and having a paintball come around the corner and blast you
in the face. It would even be better if it tapped you on the shoulder and
then waited for you to turn around and then blasted you. If someone breaks
down and spends the $100 + I'd like a to hear the testing results.

Hardtime · Hardtime

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:07:04 GMT, "DeathX" <crawford@netcarrier.com>
wrote:

>I saw the advertisement in the latest issue of APG. There are four little
>cartoons demonstrating the various uses of the barrel. I highly doubt that
>it could work as pictured but its kind of funny. Could you imagine hiding
>behind a bunker and having a paintball come around the corner and blast you
>in the face. It would even be better if it tapped you on the shoulder and
>then waited for you to turn around and then blasted you. If someone breaks
>down and spends the $100 + I'd like a to hear the testing results.

I have a little surprise for you :-)
The flatline can turn angles by way of turning your marker on its
side. I have become proficient at it. I know many other people that
do it also. It keeps you alert and from getting to comfortable behind
a bunker. The flatline places a backspin on the paintball in an
effect to keep the ball aloft. When you turn the barrel/marker on its
side the backspin now becomes sidespin and curves the paintball fairly
sharply at different distances depending how much you turn it on its
side.

The thing with the APEX is you can vary the amount of spin that is put
on the ball and you can twist the apparatus without turning the entire
marker so it changes the direction that the spin is being applied. I
have not seen one yet but have spoken with the Ben Tippmann Service
Tech and understand the principles that are used.

I only use the paintball curves on habitual wiper/cheaters. It is a
very good attitude adjuster for them.

I like the idea of the APEX as they say you can vary the amount of
backspin applied to the paintball and therefore it reduces the lofty
appearance that the flatline gives a paintball.

The main reason that I am interested in it is, they say that it
reaches further with consistent breaks than the flatline.

I also like the idea of being able to create a dropping round as to
act like a mortar round into hard to reach dug out bunkers that have
real small firing slits/ports.

Hardtime

http://www.geocities.com/arcticjohn88/arcticjohn88

mad8 · mad8

>I only use the paintball curves on habitual wiper/cheaters. It is a
>very good attitude adjuster for them.

i just bonusball them when i run their bunker...

Hardtime · Hardtime

I found a couple of videos on the APEX. They are not that good but
here they are:
http://www.blacklightcompany.com/files/apex.wmv

http://media.putfile.com/apex231

Hardtime

http://www.geocities.com/arcticjohn88/arcticjohn88

DeathX · DeathX

On 17-Aug-2005, Hardtime <hardtime11@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have a little surprise for you :-)
> The flatline can turn angles by way of turning your marker on its
> side. I have become proficient at it. I know many other people that
> do it also.

I'm well aware of how the Flatline performs. I'm not arguing your point.
But the Apex and the Flatline are not the same.
The Flatline is bowed underneath that shroud. This design causes the
backspin. The Apex appears straight until the end of the barrel.
There is this device that looks to be a few inches long attached to the end.
It has a slide and apparently twists. Also in the advertisement it looks
like the paintball goes straight 75% to 80% of the distance then makes a
radical turn.

DeathX · DeathX

OK I couldn't stand not knowing so I called BT Tippmann and spoke with a
tech myself.
The Barrel is straight until the 3" plastic end piece. The ramp inside the
end piece is made of rubber causing extreme backspin if the slide is fully
engaged. You can set the slide to various positions depending on how much
backspin you want. He claimed that this design produces more backspin than
the Flatline. He confirmed that the paintball does shoot straight for quite
a distance before curving. It seemed to me that this design would put more
stress on the paintball. After a little coaxing he did admit that it does
break some balls but that since the ramp is at the end of the barrel the
breaks happen right as the ball is leaving the barrel so it does not cause
an ongoing problem where you have to stop to swap the barrel. I'd like to
try one for myself.

DeathX	[11] Posted by DeathX 08-17-2005, 02:07 PM
Posts: n/a	Quote I saw the advertisement in the latest issue of APG. There are four little cartoons demonstrating the various uses of the barrel. I highly doubt that it could work as pictured but its kind of funny. Could you imagine hiding behind a bunker and having a paintball come around the corner and blast you in the face. It would even be better if it tapped you on the shoulder and then waited for you to turn around and then blasted you. If someone breaks down and spends the $100 + I'd like a to hear the testing results.
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Hardtime	[12] Posted by Hardtime 08-17-2005, 02:52 PM
Posts: n/a	Quote On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:07:04 GMT, "DeathX" <crawford@netcarrier.com> wrote: >I saw the advertisement in the latest issue of APG. There are four little >cartoons demonstrating the various uses of the barrel. I highly doubt that >it could work as pictured but its kind of funny. Could you imagine hiding >behind a bunker and having a paintball come around the corner and blast you >in the face. It would even be better if it tapped you on the shoulder and >then waited for you to turn around and then blasted you. If someone breaks >down and spends the $100 + I'd like a to hear the testing results. I have a little surprise for you :-) The flatline can turn angles by way of turning your marker on its side. I have become proficient at it. I know many other people that do it also. It keeps you alert and from getting to comfortable behind a bunker. The flatline places a backspin on the paintball in an effect to keep the ball aloft. When you turn the barrel/marker on its side the backspin now becomes sidespin and curves the paintball fairly sharply at different distances depending how much you turn it on its side. The thing with the APEX is you can vary the amount of spin that is put on the ball and you can twist the apparatus without turning the entire marker so it changes the direction that the spin is being applied. I have not seen one yet but have spoken with the Ben Tippmann Service Tech and understand the principles that are used. I only use the paintball curves on habitual wiper/cheaters. It is a very good attitude adjuster for them. I like the idea of the APEX as they say you can vary the amount of backspin applied to the paintball and therefore it reduces the lofty appearance that the flatline gives a paintball. The main reason that I am interested in it is, they say that it reaches further with consistent breaks than the flatline. I also like the idea of being able to create a dropping round as to act like a mortar round into hard to reach dug out bunkers that have real small firing slits/ports. Hardtime http://www.geocities.com/arcticjohn88/arcticjohn88
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mad8	[13] Posted by mad8 08-17-2005, 06:01 PM
Posts: n/a	Quote >I only use the paintball curves on habitual wiper/cheaters. It is a >very good attitude adjuster for them. i just bonusball them when i run their bunker...
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Hardtime	[14] Posted by Hardtime 08-17-2005, 08:08 PM
Posts: n/a	Quote I found a couple of videos on the APEX. They are not that good but here they are: http://www.blacklightcompany.com/files/apex.wmv http://media.putfile.com/apex231 Hardtime http://www.geocities.com/arcticjohn88/arcticjohn88
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DeathX	[15] Posted by DeathX 08-18-2005, 11:56 AM
Posts: n/a	Quote On 17-Aug-2005, Hardtime <hardtime11@hotmail.com> wrote: > I have a little surprise for you :-) > The flatline can turn angles by way of turning your marker on its > side. I have become proficient at it. I know many other people that > do it also. I'm well aware of how the Flatline performs. I'm not arguing your point. But the Apex and the Flatline are not the same. The Flatline is bowed underneath that shroud. This design causes the backspin. The Apex appears straight until the end of the barrel. There is this device that looks to be a few inches long attached to the end. It has a slide and apparently twists. Also in the advertisement it looks like the paintball goes straight 75% to 80% of the distance then makes a radical turn.
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DeathX	[16] Posted by DeathX 08-18-2005, 12:21 PM
Posts: n/a	Quote OK I couldn't stand not knowing so I called BT Tippmann and spoke with a tech myself. The Barrel is straight until the 3" plastic end piece. The ramp inside the end piece is made of rubber causing extreme backspin if the slide is fully engaged. You can set the slide to various positions depending on how much backspin you want. He claimed that this design produces more backspin than the Flatline. He confirmed that the paintball does shoot straight for quite a distance before curving. It seemed to me that this design would put more stress on the paintball. After a little coaxing he did admit that it does break some balls but that since the ramp is at the end of the barrel the breaks happen right as the ball is leaving the barrel so it does not cause an ongoing problem where you have to stop to swap the barrel. I'd like to try one for myself.
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