Thanks.

I'm not sure if I'm sold on low-pressure or not. It sounds appealing -
should result in better accuracy.

I want to accuracy-test my Fenix ACS with Evil Pipe kit against a
friend's Impulse and see how much better it is.


MathU41 wrote:

>>I'm a newb and just got a Fenix ACS. I like it but I like the idea of
>>low pressure and would maybe like to upgrade it if I could. Does
>>anybody make a LP kit for this gun?
>>
>
>
> No kits that I know of, but there are plenty higher-flow bolts and some
> low-pressure hammers and spring kits and valves and low-pressure chambers.
> You'd have to mix and match your own.
>
> To be honest, Spyders tend to work best unmodified, except for the bolt and a
> spring kit. Low pressure would only limit the recoil slightly to keep it more
> stable, and that's a minimal help once you're actually used to it. Personally,
> I'd want to keep the ACS instead of modifying it--the spring in the bolt tends
> to prevent the hammer from opening the valve enough to recock it at low
> pressures if it hits a ball. I'd rather keep the anti-chop working than get the
> minimal help of low-pressure.

"Paul Folbrecht" <paul.folbrecht@nospammmm.veribox.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks.
>
> I'm not sure if I'm sold on low-pressure or not. It sounds appealing -
> should result in better accuracy.
>
> I want to accuracy-test my Fenix ACS with Evil Pipe kit against a friend's
> Impulse and see how much better it is.

"Low Pressure" is one of those marketing techno-myths you have to be careful
of, the benefits are slim and the downside can be irritating or even
disabling. Spending time and money tricking out your paintgun is a fine
hobby in itself, but in terms of *results* on the field I'd bet three
quarters of the money spent is wasted. I've seen people spend hundreds and
hundreds on Spyders or Tippmanns, and at some point I have to wonder, if
they wanted an Autococker, why didn't they just buy one? The money you
could spend on modifying your gun would be better spent on paint, time on
the field makes you a better player, and that will do more for your game
than any amount of money spent of miracle gadgets.

>Thanks.
>
>I'm not sure if I'm sold on low-pressure or not. It sounds appealing -
>should result in better accuracy.
>
>I want to accuracy-test my Fenix ACS with Evil Pipe kit against a
>friend's Impulse and see how much better it is.
>
>

The actual accuracy, using the same barrel and paint, will be exactly the same
no matter what pressure it uses. Paintballs don't deform from air pressure
nearly as much as you'd think. The only benefit low pressure operation has over
standard is the stability--the marker won't shake as much. With a Spyder, the
moving mass doesn't change, only changes speeds at which is moves, so it's
minimal, because the ammer *needs* to be relatively heavy to operate it.
Otherwise, going lower pressure will quiet your marker. Again, with Spyders, it
*is* possible to get the air exiting the barrel next to silent--it's the
'thump' shoving the hammer back into place that's loud and damn near impossible
to change, without extreme modding like the 'legendary' Spyder-Cocker.

>> I'm not sure if I'm sold on low-pressure or not. It sounds appealing -
>> should result in better accuracy.
>>
>> I want to accuracy-test my Fenix ACS with Evil Pipe kit against a
>> friend's Impulse and see how much better it is.
>
> "Low Pressure" is one of those marketing techno-myths you have to be
> careful of, the benefits are slim and the downside can be irritating or
> even disabling. Spending time and money tricking out your paintgun is a
> fine hobby in itself, but in terms of *results* on the field I'd bet three
> quarters of the money spent is wasted. I've seen people spend hundreds
> and hundreds on Spyders or Tippmanns, and at some point I have to wonder,
> if they wanted an Autococker, why didn't they just buy one? The money you
> could spend on modifying your gun would be better spent on paint, time on
> the field makes you a better player, and that will do more for your game
> than any amount of money spent of miracle gadgets.
>

Mostly, I agree. The one benefit of moving to a lower pressure with a 2 tube
blow back that may be worth it is better cold weather performance.

If you can't use HPA for whatever reason, your CO2 will perform better in
cold weather (under 40 deg F) if you can get your pressure down to around
450 psi.

"LCT Paintball" <nospampleasemnotlyon@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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> Mostly, I agree. The one benefit of moving to a lower pressure with a 2
tube
> blow back that may be worth it is better cold weather performance.

Then again, for the same price(often less, actually), you can switch to HPA
and get even BETTER performance. I mean, why waste the money for all that
is necessary to switch to low pressure when you can just change air style,
get all the benefits of that, without any of the hassles. Unless, of
course, your whole plan is to just be a tinkerer. Then you can't say that
your goal is to get better cold weather performance, just that you want to
tinker. And that's a fine reason to modify your gun, if you have fun
tinkering, fine, have at it. But there are more efficient, more cost
effective ways of getting cold weather performance.

On the other hand, if HPA is NOT available where you are, and you play
paintball in the middle of winter(???what the hell for???), I guess you
don't have much choice but to go low pressure, eh?

> If you can't use HPA for whatever reason, your CO2 will perform better in
> cold weather (under 40 deg F) if you can get your pressure down to around
> 450 psi.

Yeah, what he said.

--
Jeff Goslin - MCSD - www.goslin.info
It's not a god complex when you're always right

> Yeah, what he said.
>
> --
> Jeff Goslin - MCSD - www.goslin.info
> It's not a god complex when you're always right
>
>

Careful! That almost sounded like you agree with me.

"LCT Paintball" <nospampleasemnotlyon@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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> > Yeah, what he said.
> >
> > --
> > Jeff Goslin - MCSD - www.goslin.info
> > It's not a god complex when you're always right
> >
> >
>
> Careful! That almost sounded like you agree with me.

*creeeeeak* <opens door>... <raining frogs>....
"What... the...???"

--
Jeff Goslin - MCSD - www.goslin.info
It's not a god complex when you're always right