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[1] Posted by DGDevin 09-20-2004, 04:24 AM |
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So a pal of mine saw this at the NPPL tournament in Vegas a week or two
back. It's down to a two-on-one, so one guy pins his opponent and his team mate circles around, standard stuff. But when the second man gets behind the trapped opponent, although he has a clear shot at him from yards away, instead he scoots up behind the other player, puts the muzzle of his paintgun literally inches from the back of his head, and fires a burst. The player goes down, stunned, and doesn't get up for awhile, afterward he can't even remember getting hit, for all intents and purposes he was knocked out. The two guys from the other team give each other a big high five. The referees give them a caution. The guy who pulled the trigger apparently has done this before, which makes me think of the PGI interview with another "pro" slimebag a few months ago, where he boasted of having knocked out half a dozen players by putting a stream of shots into the back of their heads. How does a league that wants to be taken seriously as running a "real sport" ignore this sort of thing? It looks like a deliberate intent to injure to me, but all they get is a caution, a warning? One of these days the knocked-out player isn't going to get up, he's going to leave in an ambulance, and of course there will be videotape showing it as an intentional injury, and then the lawyers will be swooping down from the trees to pick some bones clean. When exactly was it that tournament paintball turned into a cross between roller derby and "Beavis and Butthead"? Dude, where's my sport? |
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[2] Posted by Daniel Martin 09-20-2004, 07:39 PM |
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All they have to do is make it a 5ft or less, from behind rule, the Shooter gets eliminated. Dan Dan "DGDevin" <dgdevin@worldnet.att.invalid> wrote in message news:ZAv3d.399358$OB3.20416@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > So a pal of mine saw this at the NPPL tournament in Vegas a week or two > back. It's down to a two-on-one, so one guy pins his opponent and his team > mate circles around, standard stuff. But when the second man gets behind > the trapped opponent, although he has a clear shot at him from yards away, > instead he scoots up behind the other player, puts the muzzle of his > paintgun literally inches from the back of his head, and fires a burst. The > player goes down, stunned, and doesn't get up for awhile, afterward he can't > even remember getting hit, for all intents and purposes he was knocked out. > The two guys from the other team give each other a big high five. The > referees give them a caution. The guy who pulled the trigger apparently has > done this before, which makes me think of the PGI interview with another > "pro" slimebag a few months ago, where he boasted of having knocked out half > a dozen players by putting a stream of shots into the back of their heads. > > How does a league that wants to be taken seriously as running a "real sport" > ignore this sort of thing? It looks like a deliberate intent to injure to > me, but all they get is a caution, a warning? One of these days the > knocked-out player isn't going to get up, he's going to leave in an > ambulance, and of course there will be videotape showing it as an > intentional injury, and then the lawyers will be swooping down from the > trees to pick some bones clean. When exactly was it that tournament > paintball turned into a cross between roller derby and "Beavis and > Butthead"? Dude, where's my sport? > > |
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[3] Posted by Tempest 09-21-2004, 12:59 AM |
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There is always a jackass in every sport. Even shit like.. oh say Golf.
There's always the occasional jackoff who's using a nine-iron to try to knock you out with his Titleist. Or baseball- ever see a pitcher aim for the batter's head? It's rare as hell and unacceptable, but it happens. Aside from that, you are officially the most complainy person on these boards, actually dethroning Jeff! "DGDevin" <dgdevin@worldnet.att.invalid> wrote in message news:ZAv3d.399358$OB3.20416@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > So a pal of mine saw this at the NPPL tournament in Vegas a week or two > back. It's down to a two-on-one, so one guy pins his opponent and his > team > mate circles around, standard stuff. But when the second man gets behind > the trapped opponent, although he has a clear shot at him from yards away, > instead he scoots up behind the other player, puts the muzzle of his > paintgun literally inches from the back of his head, and fires a burst. > The > player goes down, stunned, and doesn't get up for awhile, afterward he > can't > even remember getting hit, for all intents and purposes he was knocked > out. > The two guys from the other team give each other a big high five. The > referees give them a caution. The guy who pulled the trigger apparently > has > done this before, which makes me think of the PGI interview with another > "pro" slimebag a few months ago, where he boasted of having knocked out > half > a dozen players by putting a stream of shots into the back of their heads. > > How does a league that wants to be taken seriously as running a "real > sport" > ignore this sort of thing? It looks like a deliberate intent to injure to > me, but all they get is a caution, a warning? One of these days the > knocked-out player isn't going to get up, he's going to leave in an > ambulance, and of course there will be videotape showing it as an > intentional injury, and then the lawyers will be swooping down from the > trees to pick some bones clean. When exactly was it that tournament > paintball turned into a cross between roller derby and "Beavis and > Butthead"? Dude, where's my sport? > > |
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[4] Posted by Tempest 09-21-2004, 01:01 AM |
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In rec-play, sure- but in tournament ball if someone's trying to bunker me
there's no way in hell I'm going to make sure I'm 5 feet back before I pull the trigger. If you can't handle it, don't play tournaments. But I agree that purposefully *aiming for the back of the head* is terrible. "Daniel Martin" <dwmartin@idirect.com> wrote in message news:K5udnTSWo-aRwdLcRVn-ow@look.ca... > > All they have to do is make it a 5ft or less, from behind rule, the > Shooter > gets eliminated. > > Dan > > > Dan > > "DGDevin" <dgdevin@worldnet.att.invalid> wrote in message > news:ZAv3d.399358$OB3.20416@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >> So a pal of mine saw this at the NPPL tournament in Vegas a week or two >> back. It's down to a two-on-one, so one guy pins his opponent and his > team >> mate circles around, standard stuff. But when the second man gets behind >> the trapped opponent, although he has a clear shot at him from yards >> away, >> instead he scoots up behind the other player, puts the muzzle of his >> paintgun literally inches from the back of his head, and fires a burst. > The >> player goes down, stunned, and doesn't get up for awhile, afterward he > can't >> even remember getting hit, for all intents and purposes he was knocked > out. >> The two guys from the other team give each other a big high five. The >> referees give them a caution. The guy who pulled the trigger apparently > has >> done this before, which makes me think of the PGI interview with another >> "pro" slimebag a few months ago, where he boasted of having knocked out > half >> a dozen players by putting a stream of shots into the back of their >> heads. >> >> How does a league that wants to be taken seriously as running a "real > sport" >> ignore this sort of thing? It looks like a deliberate intent to injure >> to >> me, but all they get is a caution, a warning? One of these days the >> knocked-out player isn't going to get up, he's going to leave in an >> ambulance, and of course there will be videotape showing it as an >> intentional injury, and then the lawyers will be swooping down from the >> trees to pick some bones clean. When exactly was it that tournament >> paintball turned into a cross between roller derby and "Beavis and >> Butthead"? Dude, where's my sport? >> >> > > |
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[5] Posted by DGDevin 09-21-2004, 05:07 AM |
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"Tempest" <gtg713b@prism.gatech.NOSPAM.edu> wrote in message
news:cio8v6$r5e$1@news-int2.gatech.edu... > There is always a jackass in every sport. Even shit like.. oh say Golf. > There's always the occasional jackoff who's using a nine-iron to try to > knock you out with his Titleist. Or baseball- ever see a pitcher aim for the > batter's head? It's rare as hell and unacceptable, but it happens. > > Aside from that, you are officially the most complainy person on these > boards, actually dethroning Jeff! And you are a caricature of the tourney apologist, dragging out worn-out excuses one after another, "It happens in other sports too," "It's bad, but what ya gonna do," "Boys will be boys," "If you can't take it, don't play tournaments" and so on. Oh sure, you make tsk tsk noises occasionally just for form's sake -- " I agree that purposefully *aiming for the back of the head* is terrible." But at heart you're like so many tournament players and the wannabes who imitate them, you're prepared to swim in shit for a chance at a trophy or some sponsorship and you'll slam anyone who complains about the smell, anyone who isn't prepared to bathe in dung for the dubious honor of being able to out-cheat some other bunch of wiping, whining, trash-talking punks who think a jersey with their name on the back makes them a rock star. Well I've had an inside view of the tourney scene for too many years to be impressed by anyone who thinks playing NPPL or X-Ball makes him a rock star, the reality is that most of them are little better than groupies and nobody three feet outside the tourney scene will ever hear of them. But I'll tell ya what, "Tempest," if my complaints about bullshit such as I described at the beginning of this thread really bother you so much, you can always just stop reading my posts. |
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[6] Posted by Tempest 09-21-2004, 09:23 AM |
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lol. You're REALLY easy to get all worked up, too.
Yep. Paintball's doomed! Everybody jump ship! "DGDevin" <dgdevin@worldnet.att.invalid> wrote in message news:8jR3d.405416$OB3.74293@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > And you are a caricature of the tourney apologist, dragging out worn-out > excuses one after another, "It happens in other sports too," "It's bad, > but > what ya gonna do," "Boys will be boys," "If you can't take it, don't play > tournaments" and so on. Oh sure, you make tsk tsk noises occasionally > just > for form's sake -- " I agree that purposefully *aiming for the back of the > head* is terrible." But at heart you're like so many tournament players > and > the wannabes who imitate them, you're prepared to swim in shit for a > chance > at a trophy or some sponsorship and you'll slam anyone who complains about > the smell, anyone who isn't prepared to bathe in dung for the dubious > honor > of being able to out-cheat some other bunch of wiping, whining, > trash-talking punks who think a jersey with their name on the back makes > them a rock star. Well I've had an inside view of the tourney scene for > too > many years to be impressed by anyone who thinks playing NPPL or X-Ball > makes > him a rock star, the reality is that most of them are little better than > groupies and nobody three feet outside the tourney scene will ever hear of > them. But I'll tell ya what, "Tempest," if my complaints about bullshit > such as I described at the beginning of this thread really bother you so > much, you can always just stop reading my posts. > > |
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[7] Posted by DGDevin 09-21-2004, 02:17 PM |
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"Tempest" <gtg713b@prism.gatech.NOSPAM.edu> wrote in message
news:cip6g5$7da$1@news-int2.gatech.edu... > lol. You're REALLY easy to get all worked up, too. > > Yep. Paintball's doomed! Everybody jump ship! Once upon a time I invested a lot of time and energy, not to mention money, in tournament paintball, sure, it upsets me to see it reduced to the level of roller-derby. The way the tourney scene is going these days, with everything twisted in a desperate attempt to get the game on TV at any price, "doom" isn't a bad way of describing the situation. But there are always those who are prepared to overlook any amount of cheating, game-fixing, fighting and general sleaziness, even what looks like more and more players being literally knocked during the game. Like I said, there are always people willing to swim in shit for the chance of a payoff. |
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[8] Posted by Insane Ranter 09-21-2004, 03:23 PM |
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"DGDevin" <dgdevin@worldnet.att.invalid> wrote in message news  mZ3d.616813$Gx4.256881@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...> "Tempest" <gtg713b@prism.gatech.NOSPAM.edu> wrote in message > news:cip6g5$7da$1@news-int2.gatech.edu... > > > lol. You're REALLY easy to get all worked up, too. > > > > Yep. Paintball's doomed! Everybody jump ship! > > Once upon a time I invested a lot of time and energy, not to mention money, > in tournament paintball, sure, it upsets me to see it reduced to the level > of roller-derby. The way the tourney scene is going these days, with > everything twisted in a desperate attempt to get the game on TV at any > price, "doom" isn't a bad way of describing the situation. But there are > always those who are prepared to overlook any amount of cheating, > game-fixing, fighting and general sleaziness, even what looks like more and > more players being literally knocked during the game. Like I said, there > are always people willing to swim in shit for the chance of a payoff. > > But it wasn't shit it was chocolate syrup in the sewer drain |
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[9] Posted by Tempest 09-21-2004, 04:36 PM |
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"DGDevin" <dgdevin@worldnet.att.invalid> wrote in message
news mZ3d.616813$Gx4.256881@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...> Once upon a time I invested a lot of time and energy, not to mention > money, > in tournament paintball, sure, it upsets me to see it reduced to the level > of roller-derby. The way the tourney scene is going these days, with > everything twisted in a desperate attempt to get the game on TV at any > price, "doom" isn't a bad way of describing the situation. But there are > always those who are prepared to overlook any amount of cheating, > game-fixing, fighting and general sleaziness, even what looks like more > and > more players being literally knocked during the game. Like I said, there > are always people willing to swim in shit for the chance of a payoff. Believe it or not, I agree with you 100% on the fact that cheating, game-fixing, fighting, and general sleaziness need to be cleaned up. The part where we disagree heavily is in the assessment of the actual prevalence of all of the above. Of course I see cheating (especially gun cheats now, which thankfully are being cracked down on), but these days I see those cheating also having their ass thrown in the penalty box, which rocks. The ref to player ratio is gradually increasing, and refs are getting more and more strict. |
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[10] Posted by Daniel Martin 09-21-2004, 10:03 PM |
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Ok, not to get flammy or anything, but can't you get the drop on someone
outside of 5 feet? I mean, 5 ft isn't much, even when bunkering someone, (except for over the top, it ain't a perfect rule suggestion, but a start) Measure out 5 feet. Ask yourself, " Do I need to be closer than that? ) Heck, I'm flexible, make it 3 feet, same thing, measure it out, and see if you really need to get closer than that on a bunkering manouvre. Dan Tempest" <gtg713b@prism.gatech.NOSPAM.edu> wrote in message news:cio929$r60$1@news-int2.gatech.edu... > In rec-play, sure- but in tournament ball if someone's trying to bunker me > there's no way in hell I'm going to make sure I'm 5 feet back before I pull > the trigger. If you can't handle it, don't play tournaments. But I agree > that purposefully *aiming for the back of the head* is terrible. > > "Daniel Martin" <dwmartin@idirect.com> wrote in message > news:K5udnTSWo-aRwdLcRVn-ow@look.ca... > > > > All they have to do is make it a 5ft or less, from behind rule, the > > Shooter > > gets eliminated. > > > > Dan > > > > > > Dan > > > > "DGDevin" <dgdevin@worldnet.att.invalid> wrote in message > > news:ZAv3d.399358$OB3.20416@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > >> So a pal of mine saw this at the NPPL tournament in Vegas a week or two > >> back. It's down to a two-on-one, so one guy pins his opponent and his > > team > >> mate circles around, standard stuff. But when the second man gets behind > >> the trapped opponent, although he has a clear shot at him from yards > >> away, > >> instead he scoots up behind the other player, puts the muzzle of his > >> paintgun literally inches from the back of his head, and fires a burst. > > The > >> player goes down, stunned, and doesn't get up for awhile, afterward he > > can't > >> even remember getting hit, for all intents and purposes he was knocked > > out. > >> The two guys from the other team give each other a big high five. The > >> referees give them a caution. The guy who pulled the trigger apparently > > has > >> done this before, which makes me think of the PGI interview with another > >> "pro" slimebag a few months ago, where he boasted of having knocked out > > half > >> a dozen players by putting a stream of shots into the back of their > >> heads. > >> > >> How does a league that wants to be taken seriously as running a "real > > sport" > >> ignore this sort of thing? It looks like a deliberate intent to injure > >> to > >> me, but all they get is a caution, a warning? One of these days the > >> knocked-out player isn't going to get up, he's going to leave in an > >> ambulance, and of course there will be videotape showing it as an > >> intentional injury, and then the lawyers will be swooping down from the > >> trees to pick some bones clean. When exactly was it that tournament > >> paintball turned into a cross between roller derby and "Beavis and > >> Butthead"? Dude, where's my sport? > >> > >> > > > > > > |
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