"Rick Scott" <rick@shadowspar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
> >> You do realize that this is not code to be proud of, right?
> >> If the abomination known as Outlook was inflicted upon us by you or
> >> your peers, then that fact should elicit shame, disgust, and
> >> revulsion -- not pride.
> >
> > This is something I simply cannot stand. The association of an
> > individual with a product he quite obviously had nothing to do with.
>
> Hey, he's the one that's staking claim to it on behalf of CS majors
> everywhere.

No, I'm not. I just said that an engineer probably did not write the code
for it. By the way, why are you using it if you loathe it so much? There
are many other newsreaders out there, software or Web based (such as
Google). Are you one of those Microsoft haters that use Linux just so you
can say, "Down with the man!"

"Thomas Bishop" <SPAMAWAYbishopthomas@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:9F9Tc.74$Gd7.10@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com...
> Google). Are you one of those Microsoft haters that use Linux just so you
> can say, "Down with the man!"

*stands and claps* BRAVO!!!

It's like these damn Linux users are so proud of themselves simply for using
Linux. It's just another operating system, that's all.

--
Jeff Goslin - MCSD - www.goslin.info
It's not a god complex when you're always right

"Daniel Martin" <dwmartin@idirect.com> wrote in message
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> Well then you would know that you can oscillate dc and then run it through
a
> transformer.
>
> Nit Picked. <G>

You didn't nitpick, you just stated a fact. I apparently will be nitpicking
by explaining why someone has stated something poorly or incorrectly.

I don't see how your statement is relevant to this thread. Yes, you can run
oscillating DC through a transformer. You can run DC through a transformer.
If you really wanted to, you could run nails through a transformer.

The previous poster had said a transformer regulates 18V down to 12V (and we
were talking about a DC application), that is not true. A regulator and a
transformer are not the same thing. That's all I was saying. It's one
thing to not know and say something wrong. It's another thing to allow
people to say things wrong and not do anything about it. I'm not saying
you're dumb, I'm just letting you know that you've said something incorrect
so if there's a next time, you'll know better. If I had said I had a
paintball howitzer and it was just a regular old gun, you would have told me
"it's not called a howitzer, it's called a gun."

-Bruce

> For my part, I always just assumed that it was 12volts instead of 18
because
> 18 would just churn the motor too quickly to allow effective paint
feeding,
> so they stepped it back down.
>

And that's why you're the CS major.. Kidding.. kidding..! sheesh.. =o)

(Thomas Bishop <SPAMAWAYbishopthomas@sbcglobal.net> uttered
> No, I'm not. I just said that an engineer probably did not write
> the code for it.

I'm sorry. Your implication was that it was a CS major who did.


> By the way, why are you using it if you loathe it so much?
> There are many other newsreaders out there, software or Web based
> (such as Google).

I'm not. Tempest is. Take a look at my message, and you'll see:
User-Agent: tin/1.5.12-20020311 ("Toxicity") (UNIX) (Linux/2.4.18 (i586))


> Are you one of those Microsoft haters that use Linux just so you
> can say, "Down with the man!"

No, and no. I don't hate Microsoft, although I do scorn many of their
products -- justifiably, I believe. When it comes to the company
itself, though, I think that they're just doing what any
closed-source software company would do, albeit more successfully.

I use Linux for two main reasons:

1. For my needs, it is technically excellent and is vastly superior
to Redmond's offerings. I can do development, run a mail server,
read news, browse the web, listen to music, and typeset documents
on a system that thrashes intolerably under the load of trying to
run Windows and Internet Explorer, let alone trying to do anything
more.
2. I subscribe to the hacker ethic. I believe that information
sharing is a powerful positive good, and that open-source software
represents the instantiation, in the technical world, of such
ideals as cooperation, mutual aid, truth, charity, and artistry.
For me, using open source software is the Right Thing to do.
Insofar as my choice in software is concerned, OSS most closely
epitomizes my values of peace, love, unity, and respect.



Rick
--
key CF8F8A75 / print C5C1 F87D 5056 D2C0 D5CE D58F 970F 04D1 CF8F 8A75
As we enjoy great Advantages from the Inventions of others we should
be glad of an Opportunity to serve others by any Invention of ours,
and this we should do freely and generously. :Ben Franklin

(Jeff Goslin <autockr@comcast.net> uttered
> *stands and claps* BRAVO!!!
>
> It's like these damn Linux users are so proud of themselves simply
> for using Linux.

That's a pretty wide brush you've got there, chief.


> It's just another operating system, that's all.

In mundane ways, yes. When it comes to ideals, no.




Rick
--
key CF8F8A75 / print C5C1 F87D 5056 D2C0 D5CE D58F 970F 04D1 CF8F 8A75
Why, when God's earth is so wide, have you fallen asleep in a prison?
:Rumi

"Rick Scott" <rick@shadowspar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
> 1. For my needs, it is technically excellent and is vastly superior
> to Redmond's offerings. I can do development, run a mail server,
> read news, browse the web, listen to music, and typeset documents
> on a system that thrashes intolerably under the load of trying to
> run Windows and Internet Explorer, let alone trying to do anything
more.
> 2. I subscribe to the hacker ethic. I believe that information
> sharing is a powerful positive good, and that open-source software
> represents the instantiation, in the technical world, of such
> ideals as cooperation, mutual aid, truth, charity, and artistry.
> For me, using open source software is the Right Thing to do.
> Insofar as my choice in software is concerned, OSS most closely
> epitomizes my values of peace, love, unity, and respect.

I think that's the only time anyone's given an answer to that question
longer than, "It's more stable," or "because I hate Microsoft." I use
hardware and an OS conducive to what I use a computer for. If I ran a
server or was a software developer then I would have a Linux based computer
(as well as Windows and Apple for testing purposes). But when such a small
percentage of software is produced for Linux then it is not useful for me to
switch (same with Mac). Hardware and software are all just tools, and tools
have to work together for a specific goal. If you reach your objectives
with your tools, great, but your's would do me no good in getting tasks
accomplished.

"Rick Scott" <rick@shadowspar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
> > It's just another operating system, that's all.
>
> In mundane ways, yes. When it comes to ideals, no.

If it helps you meet your ideals, great; but we don't all share the same
ideals.