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Anon
[1] Posted by Anon 01-04-2004, 08:03 PM
 
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I'm a newbie to Angels. Been running a Timmy GZ. Found an insane deal
on a Warped Sports Class IR3 on ebay. Just about everything seemed
perfect about it, but the bolt was carved up like a Thanksgiving
turkey. Burs and grooves all over it. I guess the previous owner took
the "self-lube" thing a little too seriously. Anyway, the main problem
is that the damn thing won't stop chopping. Even when I use good paint
(Proball), it still chops. It's not the barrel (I'm running a
Boomstick, but have tried other barrels with no change), and I highly
doubt that I'm outshooting my Halo B. Even if I was, it still wouldnt
explain why the bolt will shatter a ball even during single fire. Is it
just the bolt, or could there be something more serious that an Angel
newbie wouldn't pick up ...which could explain why the guy sold it at
such a such a low price.
On the same note, can an Angel LED bolt work in an IR3? I slapped one
in once, but I didnt fire cause the LED bolt seemed too small in every
dimension. It was an aweful loose fit.
Thanks for your help.
 
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Dirty
[2] Posted by Dirty 01-04-2004, 08:06 PM
 
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Make sure that your Dwell setting is in ratio to your MROF setting.... Some
people crank their ROF up without adjusting the Dwell to fit it, or vice
versa. Now this advice is coming from someone that used an LCD for awhile
and I'm not sure if the IR3s are the same, but they should work on the same
principal... Also check the LPR input pressure and make sure the breach
doesnt have burs in it. Lastly....stop shooting Proball
Todd
www.TeamSnapShot.com
"Anon" <terancefet@supernet.com> wrote in message
news:040120041904182953%terancefet@supernet.com...
> I'm a newbie to Angels. Been running a Timmy GZ. Found an insane deal
> on a Warped Sports Class IR3 on ebay. Just about everything seemed
> perfect about it, but the bolt was carved up like a Thanksgiving
> turkey. Burs and grooves all over it. I guess the previous owner took
> the "self-lube" thing a little too seriously. Anyway, the main problem
> is that the damn thing won't stop chopping. Even when I use good paint
> (Proball), it still chops. It's not the barrel (I'm running a
> Boomstick, but have tried other barrels with no change), and I highly
> doubt that I'm outshooting my Halo B. Even if I was, it still wouldnt
> explain why the bolt will shatter a ball even during single fire. Is it
> just the bolt, or could there be something more serious that an Angel
> newbie wouldn't pick up ...which could explain why the guy sold it at
> such a such a low price.
> On the same note, can an Angel LED bolt work in an IR3? I slapped one
> in once, but I didnt fire cause the LED bolt seemed too small in every
> dimension. It was an aweful loose fit.
> Thanks for your help.



 
P8ntball
[3] Posted by P8ntball 01-04-2004, 10:15 PM
 
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check oring under rotobreach, and the dwell setting,
Also when you close breach you should hear a slight click, this is the bolt
pin just clicking on the hammer.
Bolts are different so no dice with the one you had but good idea to see if
you borrow one from someone if problem continues.
angels should not break paint, theangelguy.com is a good source for anything
else
RD
"Dirty" <n"NOSPAM"todd@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
news:MT1Kb.203308$dl.10403039@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> Make sure that your Dwell setting is in ratio to your MROF setting....

Some
> people crank their ROF up without adjusting the Dwell to fit it, or vice
> versa. Now this advice is coming from someone that used an LCD for awhile
> and I'm not sure if the IR3s are the same, but they should work on the

same
> principal... Also check the LPR input pressure and make sure the breach
> doesnt have burs in it. Lastly....stop shooting Proball
> Todd
> www.TeamSnapShot.com
> "Anon" <terancefet@supernet.com> wrote in message
> news:040120041904182953%terancefet@supernet.com...
> > I'm a newbie to Angels. Been running a Timmy GZ. Found an insane deal
> > on a Warped Sports Class IR3 on ebay. Just about everything seemed
> > perfect about it, but the bolt was carved up like a Thanksgiving
> > turkey. Burs and grooves all over it. I guess the previous owner took
> > the "self-lube" thing a little too seriously. Anyway, the main problem
> > is that the damn thing won't stop chopping. Even when I use good paint
> > (Proball), it still chops. It's not the barrel (I'm running a
> > Boomstick, but have tried other barrels with no change), and I highly
> > doubt that I'm outshooting my Halo B. Even if I was, it still wouldnt
> > explain why the bolt will shatter a ball even during single fire. Is it
> > just the bolt, or could there be something more serious that an Angel
> > newbie wouldn't pick up ...which could explain why the guy sold it at
> > such a such a low price.
> > On the same note, can an Angel LED bolt work in an IR3? I slapped one
> > in once, but I didnt fire cause the LED bolt seemed too small in every
> > dimension. It was an aweful loose fit.
> > Thanks for your help.

>
>



 
Brian Lojeck
[4] Posted by Brian Lojeck 01-05-2004, 02:42 PM
 
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well, it might be electronic, but it's still a 'gun.

I'd check the following first:

1: where is the paint from the shattered ball going? is it all in the
barrel, is any of it getting up into the feed tube? if there's paint
and shell in the feed tube, check your detent, or look for other
obstructions in the breech that would cause the ball to sit up and get
cut in half

2: if you can do so on an angle, turn the velocity WAY down but let
the gun cycle normally, and see if the action itself is causing the
break, or the firing of the ball.

3: check everywhere for burrs

4: make sure it's the correct bolt for the gun. a third-party bolt
might not fit right

does it break 100% of the time, or only most of the time? more or less
during rapid fire?

if possible, I'd hard-reset the electronics to set all settings to
factory stock (there's generally a way to do this, but I don't know
angels well)
 
Excalibur Acid
[5] Posted by Excalibur Acid 01-05-2004, 03:41 PM
 
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your halo b may be forcing the paint past the detent and causing the bolt to
clip the next paintball. Try another loader if you can and see if the
problem goes away.


"Anon" <terancefet@supernet.com> wrote in message
news:040120041904182953%terancefet@supernet.com...
> I'm a newbie to Angels. Been running a Timmy GZ. Found an insane deal
> on a Warped Sports Class IR3 on ebay. Just about everything seemed
> perfect about it, but the bolt was carved up like a Thanksgiving
> turkey. Burs and grooves all over it. I guess the previous owner took
> the "self-lube" thing a little too seriously. Anyway, the main problem
> is that the damn thing won't stop chopping. Even when I use good paint
> (Proball), it still chops. It's not the barrel (I'm running a
> Boomstick, but have tried other barrels with no change), and I highly
> doubt that I'm outshooting my Halo B. Even if I was, it still wouldnt
> explain why the bolt will shatter a ball even during single fire. Is it
> just the bolt, or could there be something more serious that an Angel
> newbie wouldn't pick up ...which could explain why the guy sold it at
> such a such a low price.
> On the same note, can an Angel LED bolt work in an IR3? I slapped one
> in once, but I didnt fire cause the LED bolt seemed too small in every
> dimension. It was an aweful loose fit.
> Thanks for your help.



 
Dirty
[6] Posted by Dirty 01-05-2004, 05:02 PM
 
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or you can drill a nother hole in the opposite side and put in a new ball
detent. ITs common to have double detents on angels..
"Excalibur Acid" <Byoung4nowNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> your halo b may be forcing the paint past the detent and causing the bolt

to
> clip the next paintball. Try another loader if you can and see if the
> problem goes away.
>
>
> "Anon" <terancefet@supernet.com> wrote in message
> news:040120041904182953%terancefet@supernet.com...
> > I'm a newbie to Angels. Been running a Timmy GZ. Found an insane deal
> > on a Warped Sports Class IR3 on ebay. Just about everything seemed
> > perfect about it, but the bolt was carved up like a Thanksgiving
> > turkey. Burs and grooves all over it. I guess the previous owner took
> > the "self-lube" thing a little too seriously. Anyway, the main problem
> > is that the damn thing won't stop chopping. Even when I use good paint
> > (Proball), it still chops. It's not the barrel (I'm running a
> > Boomstick, but have tried other barrels with no change), and I highly
> > doubt that I'm outshooting my Halo B. Even if I was, it still wouldnt
> > explain why the bolt will shatter a ball even during single fire. Is it
> > just the bolt, or could there be something more serious that an Angel
> > newbie wouldn't pick up ...which could explain why the guy sold it at
> > such a such a low price.
> > On the same note, can an Angel LED bolt work in an IR3? I slapped one
> > in once, but I didnt fire cause the LED bolt seemed too small in every
> > dimension. It was an aweful loose fit.
> > Thanks for your help.

>
>



 
Tempest
[7] Posted by Tempest 01-08-2004, 03:14 PM
 
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Dwell shouldn't have any effect on ROF unless you go insanely high with the
dwell. I don't see what you mean about a "ratio". I've spent a TON of time
over at TAG learning about Angels and I've never heard anything like that.
Although I've been wrong before.

"Dirty" <n"NOSPAM"todd@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
news:MT1Kb.203308$dl.10403039@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> Make sure that your Dwell setting is in ratio to your MROF setting....

Some
> people crank their ROF up without adjusting the Dwell to fit it, or vice
> versa. Now this advice is coming from someone that used an LCD for awhile
> and I'm not sure if the IR3s are the same, but they should work on the

same
> principal... Also check the LPR input pressure and make sure the breach
> doesnt have burs in it. Lastly....stop shooting Proball
> Todd
> www.TeamSnapShot.com
> "Anon" <terancefet@supernet.com> wrote in message
> news:040120041904182953%terancefet@supernet.com...
> > I'm a newbie to Angels. Been running a Timmy GZ. Found an insane deal
> > on a Warped Sports Class IR3 on ebay. Just about everything seemed
> > perfect about it, but the bolt was carved up like a Thanksgiving
> > turkey. Burs and grooves all over it. I guess the previous owner took
> > the "self-lube" thing a little too seriously. Anyway, the main problem
> > is that the damn thing won't stop chopping. Even when I use good paint
> > (Proball), it still chops. It's not the barrel (I'm running a
> > Boomstick, but have tried other barrels with no change), and I highly
> > doubt that I'm outshooting my Halo B. Even if I was, it still wouldnt
> > explain why the bolt will shatter a ball even during single fire. Is it
> > just the bolt, or could there be something more serious that an Angel
> > newbie wouldn't pick up ...which could explain why the guy sold it at
> > such a such a low price.
> > On the same note, can an Angel LED bolt work in an IR3? I slapped one
> > in once, but I didnt fire cause the LED bolt seemed too small in every
> > dimension. It was an aweful loose fit.
> > Thanks for your help.

>
>



 
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