On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:30:28 GMT, "ayar-15"
<autococker@insightbbNOSPAM.com> wrote:

>So. We've captured him. What's the group opinion about how this will
>affect the U.S. presence in Iraq?
>
Slight decrease in attacks against. Then much the same. Everytime a US
presence kills civilians the religous fanatics keep pushing their
anti-american views.

>I think the attacks against our soldiers will decrease. I feel that many
>of Saddam's loyalists were loyal to him simply because they didn't want to
>be branded a traitor when he came back to power (like he did the first time
>we supposedly "toppled" him.)

I don't remember as the first time was to "topple" him. Was it? He
never came "back" to power the first time either. He was never removed
from power in the first place. The decision was no to remove him from
power in Desert Storm.

>Now that we've actually got him in custody, I think many of the fair-weather
>nationalists will finally breathe a sigh of relief. Because now a
>democratic Iraq is one step closer to reality. I'm not saying all our
>problems are over, mind you. Not by a long shot. But a major obstacle has
>been removed.

Sadam was a major obstacle forsure. Though not the largest one. He's
still hiding.

>HOWEVER:
>
>It is still entirely conceivable that
>
>1) This is a double, and not the real Saddam
>
>2) Saddam's capture will cause those who truly are loyal to him to do
>something drastic, like pop a nuke or deploy chemical agents around U.S.
>strongholds.

Doubt it.

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 07:42:58 -0700, "Mofaz"
<sixstringbliss@spaminator.getnet.net> wrote:

>KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!!
>KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!!
>KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!!
>KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!!
>KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!!
>KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!!
>KILL!!
>
>DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS
>GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!!
>DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS
>GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!!
>DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!!
>
>Yes! I say we get as much information outta the father ******, then KILL
>HIM! DEATH IS A BEAUTIFUL THING! I embrace it! I want him dead!

Shouldn't we ask you mom for your views?

I say make veal out of him !
"Mofaz" <sixstringbliss@spaminator.getnet.net> wrote in message
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> KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!!
> KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!!
> KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!!
> KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!!
> KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!!
> KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! KILL!!
> KILL!!
>
> DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH
IS
> GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!!
> DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH
IS
> GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!!
> DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!! DEATH IS GOOD!!
>
> Yes! I say we get as much information outta the father ******, then KILL
> HIM! DEATH IS A BEAUTIFUL THING! I embrace it! I want him dead!
>
> --
>
> Mofaz
> "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
> - Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
> "ayar-15" <autococker@insightbbNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:8u_Cb.542911$Tr4.1475094@attbi_s03...
> > So. We've captured him. What's the group opinion about how this will
> > affect the U.S. presence in Iraq?
> >
> > I think the attacks against our soldiers will decrease. I feel that
many
> > of Saddam's loyalists were loyal to him simply because they didn't want
to
> > be branded a traitor when he came back to power (like he did the first
> time
> > we supposedly "toppled" him.)
> >
> > Now that we've actually got him in custody, I think many of the
> fair-weather
> > nationalists will finally breathe a sigh of relief. Because now a
> > democratic Iraq is one step closer to reality. I'm not saying all our
> > problems are over, mind you. Not by a long shot. But a major obstacle
> has
> > been removed.
> >
> > HOWEVER:
> >
> > It is still entirely conceivable that
> >
> > 1) This is a double, and not the real Saddam
> >
> > 2) Saddam's capture will cause those who truly are loyal to him to do
> > something drastic, like pop a nuke or deploy chemical agents around U.S.
> > strongholds.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Actually back before the first Gulf War, if I'm not mistaken, Saddam was
taken out of power then he killed his way back in to it... I could have my
History Channel Shows confused but nonetheless it sounds good. They said
this morning that they have done the DNA testing and have proven that it is
in fact Saddam, no doubts there. I do think the attacks will decrease, but
I still wish they would just bring our guys home. We have no one here in
America to defend us right now except for some National Guard and local
Municipalities. I mean they are now talking of reinstating the draft. I
know we have to help rebuild what we destroyed but some of those guys
haven't been home in almost a year or more. I have a friend that was
shipped out when Afghanistan started, he worked with me at the Police
Department, he has yet to return. He went from looking for Osama to looking
for Saddam. Hopefully he will be back in Feb but that sad thing then is my
other buddy thats in the Guard will leave then. I think its starting to get
a bit redundant now. Same shit different day there. If those fuckers want
to keep blowing shit up in their own country then leave them to it. Let's
pack our shit and leave, we did what Dictator Bush wanted, to capture
Saddam. I think we should call it a day on babysitting the world.
Todd "Dirty"
www.TeamSnapShot.com
"ayar-15" <autococker@insightbbNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:8u_Cb.542911$Tr4.1475094@attbi_s03...
> So. We've captured him. What's the group opinion about how this will
> affect the U.S. presence in Iraq?
>
> I think the attacks against our soldiers will decrease. I feel that many
> of Saddam's loyalists were loyal to him simply because they didn't want to
> be branded a traitor when he came back to power (like he did the first
time
> we supposedly "toppled" him.)
>
> Now that we've actually got him in custody, I think many of the
fair-weather
> nationalists will finally breathe a sigh of relief. Because now a
> democratic Iraq is one step closer to reality. I'm not saying all our
> problems are over, mind you. Not by a long shot. But a major obstacle
has
> been removed.
>
> HOWEVER:
>
> It is still entirely conceivable that
>
> 1) This is a double, and not the real Saddam
>
> 2) Saddam's capture will cause those who truly are loyal to him to do
> something drastic, like pop a nuke or deploy chemical agents around U.S.
> strongholds.
>
>
>

Take a page from the old west. Give him a fair trial. Then hang him.

"Hollywood"

Well after such an interesting discussion I feel the need to go take a heavy
Shiite! Later all.

"FL PBPress" <flpbpress@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031214123407.11589.00000581@mb-m25.aol.com...
> Take a page from the old west. Give him a fair trial. Then hang
him.
>
> "Hollywood"

"ayar-15" <autococker@insightbbNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:8u_Cb.542911$Tr4.1475094@attbi_s03...
> So. We've captured him. What's the group opinion about how this will
> affect the U.S. presence in Iraq?
>
> I think the attacks against our soldiers will decrease. I feel that many
> of Saddam's loyalists were loyal to him simply because they didn't want to
> be branded a traitor when he came back to power (like he did the first
time
> we supposedly "toppled" him.)
>
> Now that we've actually got him in custody, I think many of the
fair-weather
> nationalists will finally breathe a sigh of relief. Because now a
> democratic Iraq is one step closer to reality. I'm not saying all our
> problems are over, mind you. Not by a long shot. But a major obstacle
has
> been removed.
>
> HOWEVER:
>
> It is still entirely conceivable that
>
> 1) This is a double, and not the real Saddam
>
> 2) Saddam's capture will cause those who truly are loyal to him to do
> something drastic, like pop a nuke or deploy chemical agents around U.S.
> strongholds.

Or...
3) He got captured but before hand he made videotapes, to be released saying
that they captured a double. I don't really know why he'd do that but it
sure would cause a lot of confusion and make bush look like a fool. I guess
releasing tapes afterward would make would be informants to afraid to ever
hand over information.

Just a though

-Bob

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 16:59:02 GMT, "N Todd Sides"
<ntodd@carolina.rr.com> wrote:

>Actually back before the first Gulf War, if I'm not mistaken, Saddam was
>taken out of power then he killed his way back in to it... I could have my
>History Channel Shows confused but nonetheless it sounds good. They said
>this morning that they have done the DNA testing and have proven that it is
>in fact Saddam, no doubts there. I do think the attacks will decrease, but
>I still wish they would just bring our guys home. We have no one here in
>America to defend us right now except for some National Guard and local
>Municipalities.

Ummm... You do realize there are 80,000,000 to 100,000,000 gun owners
in our Nation, don't you?

That makes a substantial militia....

Mike Smith
"Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent.
Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their
intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike?
If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge,
all actions, all words and all recriminations would come
too late. Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam
Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option."