Yah... that's one factor I forgot about with the Automag.

--

Mofaz
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
"Michael Hughes" <dapaintschmuck@ASSWHORE.RCN.COMMUNISM> wrote in message
news:bpbr6e$rse$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
> consider this however...
>
> Most n00bs can fathom 200 on a gun, but theyre gonna NEED HPA....right
away.
>
>
> "Mofaz" <sixstringbliss@spaminator.getnet.net> wrote in message
> news:3fb9697a$0$25282$4c5eba9e@news.getnet.net...
> > I was looking at my Micromag and thinking "You know, this gun is so
simple
> > and so easy to maintain why shouldn't it be considered for a first
> > paintgun?". I've never seen anyone here recommend an Automag to a
newbie
> > for the reasons mentioned. Yes, I do realize the .68 Automag Classics
> cost
> > over $200, but that's actually reasonable. Don't you think? They're
also
> > upgradeable and have a reputable manufacturer who'll stand by the
product,
> > offering supurb technical support if ever needed. So, why not?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Mofaz
> > "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
> > - Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
> >
> >
>
>

Another thing I just now thought of is, a newbie can get an HPA tank for the
price of a 20 oz steel CO2 tank from eBay. You know, the steel HPA tanks
aren't too expensive, plus they make good starter HPA tanks.

--

Mofaz
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
"Michael Hughes" <dapaintschmuck@ASSWHORE.RCN.COMMUNISM> wrote in message
news:bpbr6e$rse$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
> consider this however...
>
> Most n00bs can fathom 200 on a gun, but theyre gonna NEED HPA....right
away.
>
>
> "Mofaz" <sixstringbliss@spaminator.getnet.net> wrote in message
> news:3fb9697a$0$25282$4c5eba9e@news.getnet.net...
> > I was looking at my Micromag and thinking "You know, this gun is so
simple
> > and so easy to maintain why shouldn't it be considered for a first
> > paintgun?". I've never seen anyone here recommend an Automag to a
newbie
> > for the reasons mentioned. Yes, I do realize the .68 Automag Classics
> cost
> > over $200, but that's actually reasonable. Don't you think? They're
also
> > upgradeable and have a reputable manufacturer who'll stand by the
product,
> > offering supurb technical support if ever needed. So, why not?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Mofaz
> > "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
> > - Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
> >
> >
>
>

I consider the automag to be an ideal starter gun. Simple, lightweight,
elegant, functional, and can take a fucking pounding.

Then explain to me why no one here recommends it. I'm going to begin
recommending it to every person who asks what a good gun is for a beginner.

--

Mofaz
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
"Big Habeeb" <bighabeeb@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I consider the automag to be an ideal starter gun. Simple, lightweight,
> elegant, functional, and can take a fucking pounding.
>
>

I wholeheartedly recommend a Mag to beginners. It was my first marker and I
still use it to this day. The real problem with reccomending it here is
that almost all the newbies want to buy a rig for around $200 total. There
is no way you will get a Mag setup for $200 or less because of the HPA
requirement.

--

Jose I. Sanchez
Airsmith
Electric Iguana Paintball
http://www.electriciguanapaintball.com


"Mofaz" <sixstringbliss@spaminator.getnet.net> wrote in message
news:3fb9697a$0$25282$4c5eba9e@news.getnet.net...
> I was looking at my Micromag and thinking "You know, this gun is so simple
> and so easy to maintain why shouldn't it be considered for a first
> paintgun?". I've never seen anyone here recommend an Automag to a newbie
> for the reasons mentioned. Yes, I do realize the .68 Automag Classics
cost
> over $200, but that's actually reasonable. Don't you think? They're also
> upgradeable and have a reputable manufacturer who'll stand by the product,
> offering supurb technical support if ever needed. So, why not?
>
> --
>
> Mofaz
> "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
> - Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
>
>

Blow forwards are not particular cheap. Even with AGD's production capacity,
the
classic automag is still a $250 gun. First guns are usually picked on price
considerations.

Mofaz wrote:

> I was looking at my Micromag and thinking "You know, this gun is so simple
> and so easy to maintain why shouldn't it be considered for a first
> paintgun?". I've never seen anyone here recommend an Automag to a newbie
> for the reasons mentioned. Yes, I do realize the .68 Automag Classics cost
> over $200, but that's actually reasonable. Don't you think? They're also
> upgradeable and have a reputable manufacturer who'll stand by the product,
> offering supurb technical support if ever needed. So, why not?
>
> --
>
> Mofaz
> "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
> - Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

>Then explain to me why no one here recommends it. I'm going to begin
>recommending it to every person who asks what a good gun is for a beginner.

Well, as with just about anything that anyone ever says in this newsgroup, what
I say is my opinion and mine only.

Why does noone recommend it? I have a few theories....not the least of which
is that paintball is a sport full of trends. Not many years ago, the mag was
considered to be on par with cockers. Now the cocker has improved greatly,
while the mag has stayed more less the same...so while it doesn't necessarily
keep up with competition (the classic non electromag), it still has the same
plusses that it always did....simple operation, plenty of available upgrades,
comparatively high rate of fire (compared to spyders and their clones, that
is), the ability to find 'em cheap (the used mag market being what it is, its
not unusual to see mags with upgrades going for 200 bucks)...not to mention
AGDs service which, while I have heard some complaints, I've found to be
exemplary.

To this day I still have an automag clunking around the bottom of my paintball
bag. Do I ever use it? Not hardly...with 2 eclipse cockers in front of it,
why would I? But if everything goes wrong, and my 2 cockers blow up, I know
that even without being used for YEARS, that mag will come out of the bag, and
with about 20 seconds of checking, function as perfectly as it did when it went
IN to the bag.

ANd believe you me, I treat that mag like shit. Its at the bottom of my
bag...not in a case or even a bag itself...just chucked in there. I treat my
squeegees with more care than I do that mag.

The trigger. It's not as simple as a Spyder or Tippmann or an electronic
blowback. It takes control, which a lot of n00bs lack. They like to just kind
move their finger...they're too keyed up and adrenalized to shoot properly. And
they'll get paint soup and a lousy day of play.
Guld Bowman
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