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z
[1] Posted by z 10-28-2003, 02:00 AM
 
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Just thinking about being able to find targets earlier -- at greater
distance through brush and heavy cover. As i've said before I use a
flatline a5 RT w/remote so i can wing the paint out there if I could just
aquire a target.

Today I went into town and thought about finding a pistol scope or similar
scope with long relief -- so you cold hold the a5 in normal shooting stance
-- something low powered because you only need to see 100-500 feet. My
plan was to only use the scope for long shots and to checkout a spot for
guys in heavy cammo.

So I didn't see anything that knocked my socks off -- didn't hit any major
stores cos in the boonies the selection is limited.

I work in digital imaging so then I got thinking -- sheesh -- you could rig
a ccd camera and pipe that to a 3-4 inch lcd screen and use digital zoom to
do simple motion detection. You could even outline the motion in red so
you'd have a third eye where your gun was pointing. The algorythm would be
complex cos you need to eliminate camera motion, but frame stabalizers
exist for camcorders so it can be done.

Even if you started with standard CCD + lcd you could focus on the screen
but maintain situational awareness -- as you've probably noticed when you
look down a scope the world gets very small. An active lcd would provide
enough magification for the 500 foot limit, but not distract you from the
surroundings completely.

Once you got your target you could just ignore the CCD and shoot as normal.

heh imagine this integrated into your mask. smartguns -- a little screen
showing where ever your gun is pointing

I'm gonna investigate this.



 
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Chris Phillipo
[2] Posted by Chris Phillipo 10-28-2003, 03:31 PM
 
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> complex cos you need to eliminate camera motion, but frame stabalizers
> exist for camcorders so it can be done.
>
> Even if you started with standard CCD + lcd you could focus on the screen
> but maintain situational awareness -- as you've probably noticed when you
> look down a scope the world gets very small. An active lcd would provide
> enough magification for the 500 foot limit, but not distract you from the
> surroundings completely.
>
> Once you got your target you could just ignore the CCD and shoot as normal.
>
> heh imagine this integrated into your mask. smartguns -- a little screen
> showing where ever your gun is pointing
>
> I'm gonna investigate this.
>
>
>
>


I think you'd find that being able to look around corners with it would
be far more effective than using it for zoom, especially crappy digital
zoom. Like .5 degrees of movement on the camera zoomed in 10x is going
to make you sea sick
--
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http://www.ramsays-online.com
 
Kristan Roberge
[3] Posted by Kristan Roberge 10-28-2003, 04:12 PM
 
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Chris Phillipo wrote:

> > complex cos you need to eliminate camera motion, but frame stabalizers
> > exist for camcorders so it can be done.
> >
> > Even if you started with standard CCD + lcd you could focus on the screen
> > but maintain situational awareness -- as you've probably noticed when you
> > look down a scope the world gets very small. An active lcd would provide
> > enough magification for the 500 foot limit, but not distract you from the
> > surroundings completely.
> >
> > Once you got your target you could just ignore the CCD and shoot as normal.
> >
> > heh imagine this integrated into your mask. smartguns -- a little screen
> > showing where ever your gun is pointing
> >
> > I'm gonna investigate this.
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
> I think you'd find that being able to look around corners with it would
> be far more effective than using it for zoom, especially crappy digital
> zoom. Like .5 degrees of movement on the camera zoomed in 10x is going
> to make you sea sick


I carry a telescopic 1" diameter mirror for that. Great for inspecting around
corners.

 
TONY SR.
[4] Posted by TONY SR. 10-28-2003, 04:50 PM
 
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lol...wtf
"Kristan Roberge" <kroberge@ca.inter.net> wrote in message
news:3F9ECCD6.48B4AE99@ca.inter.net...
>
>
> Chris Phillipo wrote:
>
> > > complex cos you need to eliminate camera motion, but frame stabalizers
> > > exist for camcorders so it can be done.
> > >
> > > Even if you started with standard CCD + lcd you could focus on the

screen
> > > but maintain situational awareness -- as you've probably noticed when

you
> > > look down a scope the world gets very small. An active lcd would

provide
> > > enough magification for the 500 foot limit, but not distract you from

the
> > > surroundings completely.
> > >
> > > Once you got your target you could just ignore the CCD and shoot as

normal.
> > >
> > > heh imagine this integrated into your mask. smartguns -- a little

screen
> > > showing where ever your gun is pointing
> > >
> > > I'm gonna investigate this.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> > I think you'd find that being able to look around corners with it would
> > be far more effective than using it for zoom, especially crappy digital
> > zoom. Like .5 degrees of movement on the camera zoomed in 10x is going
> > to make you sea sick

>
> I carry a telescopic 1" diameter mirror for that. Great for inspecting

around
> corners.
>



 
Bob
[5] Posted by Bob 10-28-2003, 05:46 PM
 
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You know whats even funnier than this topic starter is the fact that Tony is
over 50 and he just posted lol...wtf
"TONY SR." <AMARGIO1@SAN.RR.COM> wrote in message
news:JEAnb.1374$Ub4.810@twister.socal.rr.com...
> lol...wtf
> "Kristan Roberge" <kroberge@ca.inter.net> wrote in message
> news:3F9ECCD6.48B4AE99@ca.inter.net...
> >
> >
> > Chris Phillipo wrote:
> >
> > > > complex cos you need to eliminate camera motion, but frame

stabalizers
> > > > exist for camcorders so it can be done.
> > > >
> > > > Even if you started with standard CCD + lcd you could focus on the

> screen
> > > > but maintain situational awareness -- as you've probably noticed

when
> you
> > > > look down a scope the world gets very small. An active lcd would

> provide
> > > > enough magification for the 500 foot limit, but not distract you

from
> the
> > > > surroundings completely.
> > > >
> > > > Once you got your target you could just ignore the CCD and shoot as

> normal.
> > > >
> > > > heh imagine this integrated into your mask. smartguns -- a little

> screen
> > > > showing where ever your gun is pointing
> > > >
> > > > I'm gonna investigate this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think you'd find that being able to look around corners with it

would
> > > be far more effective than using it for zoom, especially crappy

digital
> > > zoom. Like .5 degrees of movement on the camera zoomed in 10x is

going
> > > to make you sea sick

> >
> > I carry a telescopic 1" diameter mirror for that. Great for inspecting

> around
> > corners.
> >

>
>
>



 
vercingetorix
[6] Posted by vercingetorix 10-28-2003, 06:21 PM
 
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Why? Is "lol, wtf" some kind of proprietary hip gen x lingo then?

"Bob" <bwing@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3tBnb.66706$Go5.1076183@twister.tampabay.rr.c om...
> You know whats even funnier than this topic starter is the fact that Tony

is
> over 50 and he just posted lol...wtf
> "TONY SR." <AMARGIO1@SAN.RR.COM> wrote in message
> news:JEAnb.1374$Ub4.810@twister.socal.rr.com...
> > lol...wtf
> > "Kristan Roberge" <kroberge@ca.inter.net> wrote in message
> > news:3F9ECCD6.48B4AE99@ca.inter.net...
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris Phillipo wrote:
> > >
> > > > > complex cos you need to eliminate camera motion, but frame

> stabalizers
> > > > > exist for camcorders so it can be done.
> > > > >
> > > > > Even if you started with standard CCD + lcd you could focus on the

> > screen
> > > > > but maintain situational awareness -- as you've probably noticed

> when
> > you
> > > > > look down a scope the world gets very small. An active lcd would

> > provide
> > > > > enough magification for the 500 foot limit, but not distract you

> from
> > the
> > > > > surroundings completely.
> > > > >
> > > > > Once you got your target you could just ignore the CCD and shoot

as
> > normal.
> > > > >
> > > > > heh imagine this integrated into your mask. smartguns -- a little

> > screen
> > > > > showing where ever your gun is pointing
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm gonna investigate this.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think you'd find that being able to look around corners with it

> would
> > > > be far more effective than using it for zoom, especially crappy

> digital
> > > > zoom. Like .5 degrees of movement on the camera zoomed in 10x is

> going
> > > > to make you sea sick
> > >
> > > I carry a telescopic 1" diameter mirror for that. Great for inspecting

> > around
> > > corners.
> > >

> >
> >
> >

>
>



 
Jeff Goslin
[7] Posted by Jeff Goslin 10-28-2003, 06:54 PM
 
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"Kristan Roberge" <kroberge@ca.inter.net> wrote in message
news:3F9ECCD6.48B4AE99@ca.inter.net...
> I carry a telescopic 1" diameter mirror for that. Great for inspecting

around
> corners.


Do you carry a full(not half full) canteen, and an entrenching tool (that
would be a shovel to us laypeople) and a shaving kit and 2 extra pairs of
socks?

Give me a fuckin break, you do not carry a mirror for looking around
corners. Everybody who wants to sound kewl and into paintball says they do,
but nobody actually does. Come to think of it *I* carry a mirror too!
Yeah, that's the ticket! I fix it to my bayonet with gum I've taken from my
platoon mate's mouth. Then we all yell "covering fire" and send 3 guys to
take out the machine gun nest at the top of the draw...

Right.... that's the ticket.

--
Jeff Goslin - MCSD - www.goslin.info
It's not a god complex when you're always right




 
TONY SR.
[8] Posted by TONY SR. 10-28-2003, 07:57 PM
 
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64 and you think b/c you get old you get behind the times...remember I was
raised in new york and i am a wop !!
"Bob" <bwing@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3tBnb.66706$Go5.1076183@twister.tampabay.rr.c om...
> You know whats even funnier than this topic starter is the fact that Tony

is
> over 50 and he just posted lol...wtf
> "TONY SR." <AMARGIO1@SAN.RR.COM> wrote in message
> news:JEAnb.1374$Ub4.810@twister.socal.rr.com...
> > lol...wtf
> > "Kristan Roberge" <kroberge@ca.inter.net> wrote in message
> > news:3F9ECCD6.48B4AE99@ca.inter.net...
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris Phillipo wrote:
> > >
> > > > > complex cos you need to eliminate camera motion, but frame

> stabalizers
> > > > > exist for camcorders so it can be done.
> > > > >
> > > > > Even if you started with standard CCD + lcd you could focus on the

> > screen
> > > > > but maintain situational awareness -- as you've probably noticed

> when
> > you
> > > > > look down a scope the world gets very small. An active lcd would

> > provide
> > > > > enough magification for the 500 foot limit, but not distract you

> from
> > the
> > > > > surroundings completely.
> > > > >
> > > > > Once you got your target you could just ignore the CCD and shoot

as
> > normal.
> > > > >
> > > > > heh imagine this integrated into your mask. smartguns -- a little

> > screen
> > > > > showing where ever your gun is pointing
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm gonna investigate this.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think you'd find that being able to look around corners with it

> would
> > > > be far more effective than using it for zoom, especially crappy

> digital
> > > > zoom. Like .5 degrees of movement on the camera zoomed in 10x is

> going
> > > > to make you sea sick
> > >
> > > I carry a telescopic 1" diameter mirror for that. Great for inspecting

> > around
> > > corners.
> > >

> >
> >
> >

>
>



 
TONY SR.
[9] Posted by TONY SR. 10-28-2003, 07:59 PM
 
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here come's the Jeff I know...lmao
"Jeff Goslin" <autockr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:-q6dnRnqGspGbgOiRVn-iw@comcast.com...
> "Kristan Roberge" <kroberge@ca.inter.net> wrote in message
> news:3F9ECCD6.48B4AE99@ca.inter.net...
> > I carry a telescopic 1" diameter mirror for that. Great for inspecting

> around
> > corners.

>
> Do you carry a full(not half full) canteen, and an entrenching tool (that
> would be a shovel to us laypeople) and a shaving kit and 2 extra pairs of
> socks?
>
> Give me a fuckin break, you do not carry a mirror for looking around
> corners. Everybody who wants to sound kewl and into paintball says they

do,
> but nobody actually does. Come to think of it *I* carry a mirror too!
> Yeah, that's the ticket! I fix it to my bayonet with gum I've taken from

my
> platoon mate's mouth. Then we all yell "covering fire" and send 3 guys to
> take out the machine gun nest at the top of the draw...
>
> Right.... that's the ticket.
>
> --
> Jeff Goslin - MCSD - www.goslin.info
> It's not a god complex when you're always right
>
>
>
>



 
Bob
[10] Posted by Bob 10-28-2003, 08:42 PM
 
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Sorry but I don't think its the cool thing to say, it's what morons post
simple one-liner responses.
"TONY SR." <AMARGIO1@SAN.RR.COM> wrote in message
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> 64 and you think b/c you get old you get behind the times...remember I was
> raised in new york and i am a wop !!
> "Bob" <bwing@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3tBnb.66706$Go5.1076183@twister.tampabay.rr.c om...
> > You know whats even funnier than this topic starter is the fact that

Tony
> is
> > over 50 and he just posted lol...wtf
> > "TONY SR." <AMARGIO1@SAN.RR.COM> wrote in message
> > news:JEAnb.1374$Ub4.810@twister.socal.rr.com...
> > > lol...wtf
> > > "Kristan Roberge" <kroberge@ca.inter.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3F9ECCD6.48B4AE99@ca.inter.net...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris Phillipo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > complex cos you need to eliminate camera motion, but frame

> > stabalizers
> > > > > > exist for camcorders so it can be done.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Even if you started with standard CCD + lcd you could focus on

the
> > > screen
> > > > > > but maintain situational awareness -- as you've probably noticed

> > when
> > > you
> > > > > > look down a scope the world gets very small. An active lcd

would
> > > provide
> > > > > > enough magification for the 500 foot limit, but not distract you

> > from
> > > the
> > > > > > surroundings completely.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Once you got your target you could just ignore the CCD and shoot

> as
> > > normal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > heh imagine this integrated into your mask. smartguns -- a

little
> > > screen
> > > > > > showing where ever your gun is pointing
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm gonna investigate this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think you'd find that being able to look around corners with it

> > would
> > > > > be far more effective than using it for zoom, especially crappy

> > digital
> > > > > zoom. Like .5 degrees of movement on the camera zoomed in 10x is

> > going
> > > > > to make you sea sick
> > > >
> > > > I carry a telescopic 1" diameter mirror for that. Great for

inspecting
> > > around
> > > > corners.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>
>



 
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