Have you completely dismantled the marker and cleaned the valve pin and
valve chamber? Did you dismantle and clean/lube the reg? Have you replaced
the bolt o-rings to ensure consistent propellant pressure in the chamber?
20-30 fps variation definitely sounds high. 5-10 fps variation would be
acceptable.


--
Jose I. Sanchez
Airsmith
Electric Iguana Paintball
http://www.electriciguanapaintball.com


"Jason G" <jrgusenet@yahoo.REMOVExixTHISxixPART.com> wrote in message
news:bmhgg1023kf@drn.newsguy.com...
> Well, I had my 2003 WGP cocker retimed in an effort to fix the velocity
> variation I was experiencing. Apparently that wasn't the problem.
>
> I'm getting 20-30fps variations within 5-10 shots. I'm running HPA with
stock
> everything. I've shot about 20,000 rounds through the gun at this point.
>
> Could the stock reg just crap out this soon? Does it need some sort of
"after
> break-in" adjustment? Should I just suck it up and buy an aftermarket
reg?
> Which one? Could it something else? I'd rather not put hundreds more
into this
> damn thing. I don't need blazing-fast rate of fire. I'd be happy with
9-10bps
> and consistent velocity.
>

In article <MPG.19f623a257dcb4bc98a0be@news.eastlink.ca>, Chris Phillipo says...
>>
>
>Could it be the paint?
>--

Happens with Big Ball and PMI Premium both, multiple cases.

In article <vook02rlapoqe0@corp.supernews.com>, Jose says...
>
>Have you completely dismantled the marker and cleaned the valve pin and
>valve chamber? Did you dismantle and clean/lube the reg? Have you replaced
>the bolt o-rings to ensure consistent propellant pressure in the chamber?
>20-30 fps variation definitely sounds high. 5-10 fps variation would be
>acceptable.

No, I've done none of these things, as I don't know much about how the gun works
and I'm afraid I couldn't get it back together. All I do is clean it
externally, pull the bolt and put a drop of oil on the rings, put a few drops of
oil in the ASA and dry fire a few times.

I'm not a real tinkerer by nature. Are those tasks simple to do? Any web sites
you can point me to that will tell me how to try these one at a time? Or is
this something I should drop a few bucks to have someone do for me?

if you tip the gun to the ground is your paint rolling out of the barrel?

"Jose" <asdfasdf@asdfasdf.com> wrote in message
news:vook02rlapoqe0@corp.supernews.com...
> Have you completely dismantled the marker and cleaned the valve pin and
> valve chamber? Did you dismantle and clean/lube the reg? Have you
replaced
> the bolt o-rings to ensure consistent propellant pressure in the chamber?
> 20-30 fps variation definitely sounds high. 5-10 fps variation would be
> acceptable.
>
>
> --
> Jose I. Sanchez
> Airsmith
> Electric Iguana Paintball
> http://www.electriciguanapaintball.com
>
>
> "Jason G" <jrgusenet@yahoo.REMOVExixTHISxixPART.com> wrote in message
> news:bmhgg1023kf@drn.newsguy.com...
> > Well, I had my 2003 WGP cocker retimed in an effort to fix the velocity
> > variation I was experiencing. Apparently that wasn't the problem.
> >
> > I'm getting 20-30fps variations within 5-10 shots. I'm running HPA with
> stock
> > everything. I've shot about 20,000 rounds through the gun at this
point.
> >
> > Could the stock reg just crap out this soon? Does it need some sort of
> "after
> > break-in" adjustment? Should I just suck it up and buy an aftermarket
> reg?
> > Which one? Could it something else? I'd rather not put hundreds more
> into this
> > damn thing. I don't need blazing-fast rate of fire. I'd be happy with
> 9-10bps
> > and consistent velocity.
> >
>
>

Taking out the valve involves removing all the internals and grip frame
which will require re-timing. Since you say you aren't a tinkerer type, you
certainly would be happier taking the marker to someone and having them
clean/tune it for you. If you told the shop what the problem was, they
should have told you that velocity fluctuations are not going to be solved
by re-timing. I would look for a more knowledgeable shop, if the one you
took it to said that re-timing it would solve the problem.

I would recommend you first replace the bolt o-rings and then remove the
reg. and input the tank directly into the marker. If your fluctuation
problem goes away then the reg. is the problem. If you have a stock reg.
(the kind that you have to remove the bottom to adjust) then just replace it
with at least a WGP ergo reg. or better. If you have an ergo reg.
(adjustable with an allen wrench) then it is worth re-building. If you test
without the reg. and it still fluctuates, then it is likely a problem with
the internals, in which case you can buy a tune up kit (about $20) and have
a shop install it and time the marker. If all that doesn't do it, then I
would have to have a look at your marker to figure out exactly what is
wrong.

--
Jose I. Sanchez
Airsmith
Electric Iguana Paintball
http://www.electriciguanapaintball.com


"Jason G" <jrgusenet@yahoo.REMOVExixTHISxixPART.com> wrote in message
news:bmhovg0fvi@drn.newsguy.com...
> In article <vook02rlapoqe0@corp.supernews.com>, Jose says...
> >
> >Have you completely dismantled the marker and cleaned the valve pin and
> >valve chamber? Did you dismantle and clean/lube the reg? Have you
replaced
> >the bolt o-rings to ensure consistent propellant pressure in the chamber?
> >20-30 fps variation definitely sounds high. 5-10 fps variation would be
> >acceptable.
>
> No, I've done none of these things, as I don't know much about how the gun
works
> and I'm afraid I couldn't get it back together. All I do is clean it
> externally, pull the bolt and put a drop of oil on the rings, put a few
drops of
> oil in the ASA and dry fire a few times.
>
> I'm not a real tinkerer by nature. Are those tasks simple to do? Any web
sites
> you can point me to that will tell me how to try these one at a time? Or
is
> this something I should drop a few bucks to have someone do for me?
>

I've got a similar thing with one of my Cockers. The tech at bad boyz thinks
it's usually the vertical reg tha causes this problem. I haven't had a
chance to swap regs yet to test this theory. I'll try tonight and let you
know if that resolves it for me.

The beauty is that if you spend ~$100, you can get the gun set up so you can
adjust the velocity externally, so you'll get a new low-pressure reg anyway.
It'll simplify the start-of-day festivities at the chrono...

>>> Jason G<jrgusenet@yahoo.REMOVExixTHISxixPART.com> 10/14/2003 1:49:37 PM
>>>
Well, I had my 2003 WGP cocker retimed in an effort to fix the velocity
variation I was experiencing. Apparently that wasn't the problem.

I'm getting 20-30fps variations within 5-10 shots. I'm running HPA with
stock
everything. I've shot about 20,000 rounds through the gun at this point.

Could the stock reg just crap out this soon? Does it need some sort of
"after
break-in" adjustment? Should I just suck it up and buy an aftermarket reg?

Which one? Could it something else? I'd rather not put hundreds more into
this
damn thing. I don't need blazing-fast rate of fire. I'd be happy with
9-10bps
and consistent velocity.

In article <bmhom80eo2@drn.newsguy.com>,
jrgusenet@yahoo.REMOVExixTHISxixPART.com says...
> In article <MPG.19f623a257dcb4bc98a0be@news.eastlink.ca>, Chris Phillipo says...
> >>
> >
> >Could it be the paint?
> >--
>
> Happens with Big Ball and PMI Premium both, multiple cases.
>
>
Well those are both the same paint if you ask me But I wasn't
thinking about the brand I was thinking the age of it would be a factor.
--
_________________________
Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
http://www.ramsays-online.com

In article <MPG.19f73105a0920b4d98a0c3@news.eastlink.ca>, Chris Phillipo says...
>>
>>
>Well those are both the same paint if you ask me But I wasn't
>thinking about the brand I was thinking the age of it would be a factor.
>--

Ah, I misunderstood the question. All paint was less than a month old, latest
was bought the night before from a high-volume shop.