Holy Crap I feel old...

Brian Lojeck · Brian Lojeck

OK, so I finally got out to play 'ball again after nearly 4 years
(maybe more), dusted off the equipment, dug up my tools, and hit
Hollywood Sports Park in Bellflower, CA.

Not a bad park, nice fields, good facilities, friendly refs who kept a
pretty good eye on things, and the players were cool. Paint bounced
like superballs, but then you can't have everything. (I got a bounce
off of my co2 tank...)

but that's not why I'm telling this story. ;-)

when I pulled out my KP-3 to start the day, i got a few odd looks,
people asked about it, I expected that. Hell, the gun is older then a
lot of players these days.

But the same thing happened when I pulled out my Powerfeed 68 Automag!
"Wow, that gun's kinda cool... it's nice and small! What is it?"

Mind you, these were not walk-on rental players, they had all their
own equipment with the talking loaders and electronic squeegees, they
were seemingly old enough to vote for Arnold (I hate california
today)... one of them asked where the circuit board was...

I feel old...

On a more positive note, I bingo'd two guys with my first two shots of
the day from my KP... and nearly bunkered somebody with the same gun a
couple games later (turned out he had two friends I didn't expect)

Jason G · Jason G

In article <d24efaf3.0310080735.35ae389@posting.google.com> , Brian Lojeck
says...
> the talking loaders and electronic squeegees,

LAFF!

--
Jason G
[Sig closed for remodeling. We apologize for the inconvenience.]

Jeff Goslin · Jeff Goslin

"Brian Lojeck" <brian@lojeck.com> wrote in message
news:d24efaf3.0310080735.35ae389@posting.google.co m...
> when I pulled out my KP-3 to start the day, i got a few odd looks,
> people asked about it, I expected that. Hell, the gun is older then a
> lot of players these days.
>
> But the same thing happened when I pulled out my Powerfeed 68 Automag!
> "Wow, that gun's kinda cool... it's nice and small! What is it?"
>
> Mind you, these were not walk-on rental players, they had all their
> own equipment with the talking loaders and electronic squeegees, they
> were seemingly old enough to vote for Arnold (I hate california
> today)... one of them asked where the circuit board was...

The mag has seen a serious dip in it's market share lately. I can't even
remember the last time I saw a mag. Everyone's got cockers or electros in
the high end market these days. I think it's because of the move of Spyders
and their clones to appear more "cocker-like" by adding an unnecessary
beavertail on the back. WGP must be thanking their lucky stars for that
move on behalf of their competitors.

As a comment on the last paragraph... there is something to be said for
paying attention to history. Kids these days have NO appreciation for the
history of "whatever", be it paintball, world history, or even American
history. I'd wager that many high school aged kids would be hard pressed to
even give the century of the American Civil War, let alone the decade or
years it took place. As it relates to paintball, I think it's important to
maintain a sense of flow from one generation to the next. Sure, you might
not use the gear, but you should at least be aware that there was something
made before the days of the uber-electro...

--
Jeff Goslin - MCSD - www.goslin.info
It's not a god complex when you're always right

Brian Lojeck · Brian Lojeck

"Jeff Goslin" <autockr@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<ocOcnRCDvIsryxmiXTWJlg@comcast.com>...

> I think it's because of the move of Spyders
> and their clones to appear more "cocker-like" by adding an unnecessary
> beavertail on the back.

in part, I disagree. I think it's because the mag works pretty much as
well out of the box as it will ever work (which is VERY well in my
opinion), and there isn't a ton of excess metal to shave off, so no
real room for milling... so there's nothing for the stores to sell as
extra add-ons, nothing for the kids to show off that they just got...
nothing to mess with in a misguided attempt to make the gun work
"better", nothing for the airsmith to fix when you mess with it too
much... just a durable gun that shoots well... (hell, mine is serial
number 00455, and it still works great with a new parts kit every
couple years...)

> I'd wager that many high school aged kids would be hard pressed to
> even give the century of the American Civil War, let alone the decade or
> years it took place.

in their defense, I couldn't either... (never was any good at history
or dates). I can quite happily discuss all the reasons WHY it
happened, and the reason we say it happened because of slavery, and
all the important stuff, but not the dates...

however, I agree with you. the lack of historical knowledge these days
is pretty sad...

Mofaz · Mofaz

Actually, I had a nice conversation with LCT Paintball's 12 year old
daughter about historical events when I was visiting. I was surprised how
bright and well versed she is in historical events at her age. I think it
depends on the person and what subject they find the most interest in. Some
are strongest in English, while others are strongest in political science
("government" in high school). I love history, and am very fascinated by
virtually all historical events. Even today I strive to learn more about
what happened in the past. Although, I find myself more intersted in past
political events, as well as war and the history of flight (of course).
English is also a strong subject for me.

None of this anyone observing me from afar would have never guessed while I
was going through school (elemetary thru high school), since I was the
slacker and goofball in class. That all changed when I reached college.

--

Mofaz
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
"Brian Lojeck" <brian@lojeck.com> wrote in message
news:d24efaf3.0310081447.3f2f9b43@posting.google.c om...
> "Jeff Goslin" <autockr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<ocOcnRCDvIsryxmiXTWJlg@comcast.com>...
>
> > I think it's because of the move of Spyders
> > and their clones to appear more "cocker-like" by adding an unnecessary
> > beavertail on the back.
>
> in part, I disagree. I think it's because the mag works pretty much as
> well out of the box as it will ever work (which is VERY well in my
> opinion), and there isn't a ton of excess metal to shave off, so no
> real room for milling... so there's nothing for the stores to sell as
> extra add-ons, nothing for the kids to show off that they just got...
> nothing to mess with in a misguided attempt to make the gun work
> "better", nothing for the airsmith to fix when you mess with it too
> much... just a durable gun that shoots well... (hell, mine is serial
> number 00455, and it still works great with a new parts kit every
> couple years...)
>
> > I'd wager that many high school aged kids would be hard pressed to
> > even give the century of the American Civil War, let alone the decade or
> > years it took place.
>
> in their defense, I couldn't either... (never was any good at history
> or dates). I can quite happily discuss all the reasons WHY it
> happened, and the reason we say it happened because of slavery, and
> all the important stuff, but not the dates...
>
> however, I agree with you. the lack of historical knowledge these days
> is pretty sad...

Mark M · Mark M

> As a comment on the last paragraph... there is something to be said for
> paying attention to history. Kids these days have NO appreciation for the
> history of "whatever", be it paintball, world history, or even American
> history. I'd wager that many high school aged kids would be hard pressed
to
> even give the century of the American Civil War, let alone the decade or
> years it took place. As it relates to paintball, I think it's important
to
> maintain a sense of flow from one generation to the next. Sure, you might
> not use the gear, but you should at least be aware that there was
something
> made before the days of the uber-electro...

>
> --
> Jeff Goslin - MCSD - www.goslin.info
> It's not a god complex when you're always right

Hey Jeff,
I agree, many kids have no appreciation for history. But, my
son (15) and his friends have an interest in history. The other
day at a large PB game this guy showed up with a Sheridan punp
with the rifle stock and they went nuts! Every kid wanted to get
their hands on it and many asked how old, how it worked and tons of
other questions. Most thought it was cool. Maybe it's the way
history is presented, and parents shoul teach their kids to honor
and appreciate the past. Thanks for the thought prvoking post.

Mark M

Brian Lojeck	[1] Posted by Brian Lojeck 10-08-2003, 12:35 PM
Posts: n/a	Quote OK, so I finally got out to play 'ball again after nearly 4 years (maybe more), dusted off the equipment, dug up my tools, and hit Hollywood Sports Park in Bellflower, CA. Not a bad park, nice fields, good facilities, friendly refs who kept a pretty good eye on things, and the players were cool. Paint bounced like superballs, but then you can't have everything. (I got a bounce off of my co2 tank...) but that's not why I'm telling this story. ;-) when I pulled out my KP-3 to start the day, i got a few odd looks, people asked about it, I expected that. Hell, the gun is older then a lot of players these days. But the same thing happened when I pulled out my Powerfeed 68 Automag! "Wow, that gun's kinda cool... it's nice and small! What is it?" Mind you, these were not walk-on rental players, they had all their own equipment with the talking loaders and electronic squeegees, they were seemingly old enough to vote for Arnold (I hate california today)... one of them asked where the circuit board was... I feel old... On a more positive note, I bingo'd two guys with my first two shots of the day from my KP... and nearly bunkered somebody with the same gun a couple games later (turned out he had two friends I didn't expect)
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Jason G	[2] Posted by Jason G 10-08-2003, 02:20 PM
Posts: n/a	Quote In article <d24efaf3.0310080735.35ae389@posting.google.com> , Brian Lojeck says... > the talking loaders and electronic squeegees, LAFF! -- Jason G [Sig closed for remodeling. We apologize for the inconvenience.]
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Jeff Goslin	[3] Posted by Jeff Goslin 10-08-2003, 03:25 PM
Posts: n/a	Quote "Brian Lojeck" <brian@lojeck.com> wrote in message news:d24efaf3.0310080735.35ae389@posting.google.co m... > when I pulled out my KP-3 to start the day, i got a few odd looks, > people asked about it, I expected that. Hell, the gun is older then a > lot of players these days. > > But the same thing happened when I pulled out my Powerfeed 68 Automag! > "Wow, that gun's kinda cool... it's nice and small! What is it?" > > Mind you, these were not walk-on rental players, they had all their > own equipment with the talking loaders and electronic squeegees, they > were seemingly old enough to vote for Arnold (I hate california > today)... one of them asked where the circuit board was... The mag has seen a serious dip in it's market share lately. I can't even remember the last time I saw a mag. Everyone's got cockers or electros in the high end market these days. I think it's because of the move of Spyders and their clones to appear more "cocker-like" by adding an unnecessary beavertail on the back. WGP must be thanking their lucky stars for that move on behalf of their competitors. As a comment on the last paragraph... there is something to be said for paying attention to history. Kids these days have NO appreciation for the history of "whatever", be it paintball, world history, or even American history. I'd wager that many high school aged kids would be hard pressed to even give the century of the American Civil War, let alone the decade or years it took place. As it relates to paintball, I think it's important to maintain a sense of flow from one generation to the next. Sure, you might not use the gear, but you should at least be aware that there was something made before the days of the uber-electro... -- Jeff Goslin - MCSD - www.goslin.info It's not a god complex when you're always right
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Brian Lojeck	[4] Posted by Brian Lojeck 10-08-2003, 07:47 PM
Posts: n/a	Quote "Jeff Goslin" <autockr@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<ocOcnRCDvIsryxmiXTWJlg@comcast.com>... > I think it's because of the move of Spyders > and their clones to appear more "cocker-like" by adding an unnecessary > beavertail on the back. in part, I disagree. I think it's because the mag works pretty much as well out of the box as it will ever work (which is VERY well in my opinion), and there isn't a ton of excess metal to shave off, so no real room for milling... so there's nothing for the stores to sell as extra add-ons, nothing for the kids to show off that they just got... nothing to mess with in a misguided attempt to make the gun work "better", nothing for the airsmith to fix when you mess with it too much... just a durable gun that shoots well... (hell, mine is serial number 00455, and it still works great with a new parts kit every couple years...) > I'd wager that many high school aged kids would be hard pressed to > even give the century of the American Civil War, let alone the decade or > years it took place. in their defense, I couldn't either... (never was any good at history or dates). I can quite happily discuss all the reasons WHY it happened, and the reason we say it happened because of slavery, and all the important stuff, but not the dates... however, I agree with you. the lack of historical knowledge these days is pretty sad...
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Mofaz	[5] Posted by Mofaz 10-08-2003, 08:16 PM
Posts: n/a	Quote Actually, I had a nice conversation with LCT Paintball's 12 year old daughter about historical events when I was visiting. I was surprised how bright and well versed she is in historical events at her age. I think it depends on the person and what subject they find the most interest in. Some are strongest in English, while others are strongest in political science ("government" in high school). I love history, and am very fascinated by virtually all historical events. Even today I strive to learn more about what happened in the past. Although, I find myself more intersted in past political events, as well as war and the history of flight (of course). English is also a strong subject for me. None of this anyone observing me from afar would have never guessed while I was going through school (elemetary thru high school), since I was the slacker and goofball in class. That all changed when I reached college. -- Mofaz "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821) "Brian Lojeck" <brian@lojeck.com> wrote in message news:d24efaf3.0310081447.3f2f9b43@posting.google.c om... > "Jeff Goslin" <autockr@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<ocOcnRCDvIsryxmiXTWJlg@comcast.com>... > > > I think it's because of the move of Spyders > > and their clones to appear more "cocker-like" by adding an unnecessary > > beavertail on the back. > > in part, I disagree. I think it's because the mag works pretty much as > well out of the box as it will ever work (which is VERY well in my > opinion), and there isn't a ton of excess metal to shave off, so no > real room for milling... so there's nothing for the stores to sell as > extra add-ons, nothing for the kids to show off that they just got... > nothing to mess with in a misguided attempt to make the gun work > "better", nothing for the airsmith to fix when you mess with it too > much... just a durable gun that shoots well... (hell, mine is serial > number 00455, and it still works great with a new parts kit every > couple years...) > > > I'd wager that many high school aged kids would be hard pressed to > > even give the century of the American Civil War, let alone the decade or > > years it took place. > > in their defense, I couldn't either... (never was any good at history > or dates). I can quite happily discuss all the reasons WHY it > happened, and the reason we say it happened because of slavery, and > all the important stuff, but not the dates... > > however, I agree with you. the lack of historical knowledge these days > is pretty sad...
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Mark M	[6] Posted by Mark M 10-12-2003, 12:43 PM
Posts: n/a	Quote > As a comment on the last paragraph... there is something to be said for > paying attention to history. Kids these days have NO appreciation for the > history of "whatever", be it paintball, world history, or even American > history. I'd wager that many high school aged kids would be hard pressed to > even give the century of the American Civil War, let alone the decade or > years it took place. As it relates to paintball, I think it's important to > maintain a sense of flow from one generation to the next. Sure, you might > not use the gear, but you should at least be aware that there was something > made before the days of the uber-electro... > > -- > Jeff Goslin - MCSD - www.goslin.info > It's not a god complex when you're always right Hey Jeff, I agree, many kids have no appreciation for history. But, my son (15) and his friends have an interest in history. The other day at a large PB game this guy showed up with a Sheridan punp with the rifle stock and they went nuts! Every kid wanted to get their hands on it and many asked how old, how it worked and tons of other questions. Most thought it was cool. Maybe it's the way history is presented, and parents shoul teach their kids to honor and appreciate the past. Thanks for the thought prvoking post. Mark M
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