"swcblues" <strongwilledchild@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> I believe that the .45 grip frame was coined from the model 1911 colt
> .45 pistol. Shoot me if I'm wrong.
>


ya it's just the size and angle of a 1911 -- Like i've got a rugar 22/45
which is just a .22 semi-auto with the same size/frame of a .45.

If you are a .45 shooter the grip will feel familiar and comfortable is
all. I dig my ruger cos i can shoot all day for $20 but if i want to shoot
my .45 a lot it gets spendy

>What is a .45 frame anyway?

In paintball it is the type of frame modeled after the Colt Model 1911, which
means it will accept aftermarket grip pannels (or wrap-arounds like hogue,
pachmyr, or whatever) for that same gun. The Dye sticky grips are made to those
same specs and will fit the .45 style frame on autocockers, your gun, and many
others.. actually, you should be able to put that Dye grip right on a real Colt
1911 style gun...
The .45 style is not generally interchangable with the Lonestar or Ramline
style grips for the AR15/M16 (like the one in that picture), especially if the
guns's entire grip frame/trigger assembly is a one piece design...
Most AR15/M16 grips (on paintball guns or real guns) can be replaced with an
adaptor - an aluminum frame - which is shaped like the bottom portion of a .45
frame and will accept .45 aftermarket grips. The point being that you can
easily convert the AR style grip to a .45, but you can't easily go the other
way around unless your grip frame was designed to do so from the outset.
As for your Armotech gun, I believe it has a solid one-piece unit and cannot be
easily adapted without changing out the whole frame/trigger assembly (or some
serious milling).. You might pull the side grips off and see if the lower
portion detaches, but it's probably a one piece frame.

I never quite understood why Armotech went to so much trouble to cosmetically
dress up the gun and then gave it a .45 style grip, when the AR style is
probably cheaper/easier to manufacturer. As a matter of fact, a few years ago a
lot of paintball guns came with AR style grips, and the .45 was considered an
upgrade. I am guessing the Armotech gun is based on something else and the .45
grips were readily available.


Billy Goodman -
Pukin Dogs
http://www.pukindogspaintball.com

OK, I just saw your other post about having an e-grip. In that case you
absolutely won't be able to replace your .45 frame with an AR type. As far as I
know, they do not make grip panels that would simply bolt onto your .45 frame
and emulate the AR style grips.. the AR style grip is much smaller and a
completely different angle when compared to the .45


Billy Goodman -
Pukin Dogs
http://www.pukindogspaintball.com

hehehehe, stickies on a colt .45.... im there.


"Billy Goodman" <blg123@aol.companyslut> wrote in message
news:20030922194223.06426.00000010@mb-m26.aol.com...
> >What is a .45 frame anyway?
>
> In paintball it is the type of frame modeled after the Colt Model 1911,
which
> means it will accept aftermarket grip pannels (or wrap-arounds like hogue,
> pachmyr, or whatever) for that same gun. The Dye sticky grips are made to
those
> same specs and will fit the .45 style frame on autocockers, your gun, and
many
> others.. actually, you should be able to put that Dye grip right on a real
Colt
> 1911 style gun...
> The .45 style is not generally interchangable with the Lonestar or Ramline
> style grips for the AR15/M16 (like the one in that picture), especially if
the
> guns's entire grip frame/trigger assembly is a one piece design...
> Most AR15/M16 grips (on paintball guns or real guns) can be replaced with
an
> adaptor - an aluminum frame - which is shaped like the bottom portion of a
..45
> frame and will accept .45 aftermarket grips. The point being that you can
> easily convert the AR style grip to a .45, but you can't easily go the
other
> way around unless your grip frame was designed to do so from the outset.
> As for your Armotech gun, I believe it has a solid one-piece unit and
cannot be
> easily adapted without changing out the whole frame/trigger assembly (or
some
> serious milling).. You might pull the side grips off and see if the lower
> portion detaches, but it's probably a one piece frame.
>
> I never quite understood why Armotech went to so much trouble to
cosmetically
> dress up the gun and then gave it a .45 style grip, when the AR style is
> probably cheaper/easier to manufacturer. As a matter of fact, a few years
ago a
> lot of paintball guns came with AR style grips, and the .45 was considered
an
> upgrade. I am guessing the Armotech gun is based on something else and
the .45
> grips were readily available.
>
>
> Billy Goodman -
> Pukin Dogs
> http://www.pukindogspaintball.com
>
hehehehe, stickies on a colt .45.... im there.


"Billy Goodman" <blg123@aol.companyslut> wrote in message
news:20030922194223.06426.00000010@mb-m26.aol.com...
> >What is a .45 frame anyway?
>
> In paintball it is the type of frame modeled after the Colt Model 1911,
which
> means it will accept aftermarket grip pannels (or wrap-arounds like hogue,
> pachmyr, or whatever) for that same gun. The Dye sticky grips are made to
those
> same specs and will fit the .45 style frame on autocockers, your gun, and
many
> others.. actually, you should be able to put that Dye grip right on a real
Colt
> 1911 style gun...
> The .45 style is not generally interchangable with the Lonestar or Ramline
> style grips for the AR15/M16 (like the one in that picture), especially if
the
> guns's entire grip frame/trigger assembly is a one piece design...
> Most AR15/M16 grips (on paintball guns or real guns) can be replaced with
an
> adaptor - an aluminum frame - which is shaped like the bottom portion of a
..45
> frame and will accept .45 aftermarket grips. The point being that you can
> easily convert the AR style grip to a .45, but you can't easily go the
other
> way around unless your grip frame was designed to do so from the outset.
> As for your Armotech gun, I believe it has a solid one-piece unit and
cannot be
> easily adapted without changing out the whole frame/trigger assembly (or
some
> serious milling).. You might pull the side grips off and see if the lower
> portion detaches, but it's probably a one piece frame.
>
> I never quite understood why Armotech went to so much trouble to
cosmetically
> dress up the gun and then gave it a .45 style grip, when the AR style is
> probably cheaper/easier to manufacturer. As a matter of fact, a few years
ago a
> lot of paintball guns came with AR style grips, and the .45 was considered
an
> upgrade. I am guessing the Armotech gun is based on something else and
the .45
> grips were readily available.
>
>
> Billy Goodman -
> Pukin Dogs
> http://www.pukindogspaintball.com
>

I have an actaully AR-15 grip on my ATS AT-4, I got it from a guy selling
AR-15 parts on eBay, hella cheap, i think around 7-8 bucks, its brand new
and fits perfect, nice grip. You can see ym gun here...
http://getrealpaintball.com/gallery_pic28.htm


"Mofaz" <sixstringbliss@spaminator.getnet.net> wrote in message
news:3f6f4c8a$0$51845$4c5eba9e@news.newshosting.co m...
> What is a .45 frame anyway? I'm looking for an M16/M4/AR15 style grip for
> my WG-65 R.I.S., so I asked SOG Armory (www.sogarmory.com) if the standard
> AR15 grip (http://www.sogarmory.com/ProductDeta...oductID=101808)
> fits a .45 frame. The reply I received asked "What is a .45 frame?".
This
> threw me back a bit, because I assumed all firearms had different size
grip
> frames, and one would be a .45 frame.
>
> So, now I'm thinkin' only paintball guns have the so-called .45 frame and
> un-standard gun frame.
>
> --
>
> Mofaz
> "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
> - Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
>
>