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[1] Posted by Chitterling 09-04-2003, 12:57 PM |
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Ohio Amish Community Shaken by Shooting
Thu Sep 4, 2:55 AM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo! By JOE MILICIA, Associated Press Writer MOUNT HOPE, Ohio - It's an annual prank in this tranquil Amish community, where men wear straw hats and women bonnets and plain dresses: Youngsters hide in cornfields and hurl tomatoes at passing cars. This year, the mischief turned deadly. A motorist who had been pelted several times on Labor Day got out of his car and fired three to five rounds into the 7-foot-high corn, killing 23-year-old Steven L. Keim. No arrest has been made. Residents are reeling from shock, unable to understand why anybody would retaliate so violently. Authorities say the county hadn't seen a firearm-related homicide in about three decades. "The prank has gone on for years and years," said Marty Yoder, who owns Marty's Shoes in this town about 60 miles south of Cleveland. "All over the county it's been happening every year." The shooting occurred just north of Mount Hope in Holmes County, where the clip-clop of horses pulling Amish buggies is just as common as the sound of passing automobiles. Holmes County has what is believed to be the world's largest population of Amish, who do not believe in modern conveniences such as electricity and automobiles. Keim, 23, an Apple Creek resident of Amish heritage, died of multiple wounds to the chest, Holmes County Coroner Robert Anthony said. Keim was with about 10 other members of the Amish community, ages 15 to 23. The group told the sheriff's office they had been throwing tomatoes and firing paintball guns at passing vehicles. The crime scene is marked by trampled corn stalks that interrupt an otherwise uniform stretch roadside corn. About eight rows into the cornfield, well hidden from the road, two buckets of rotting, fly-covered tomatoes still sat. According to the sheriff's department, the driver of a Lincoln or Cadillac stopped, got out and threatened to shoot whoever threw the tomatoes Monday night. The vehicle turned around and drove past the cornfield again. The car was struck with tomatoes a second time. About 25 minutes later the vehicle passed the cornfield two more times. On a third pass, the driver stopped and challenged the group to throw more tomatoes — then fired his shotgun into the cornfield. The sheriff's department did not have a suspect, only a vague description of a middle-aged male of medium height. Residents say the community will be nervous until the shooter is caught. "People won't be resting too good until they know who it is at least," said Ivan Miller, 41. "He should be punished. The guy lost it." Wayne Miller, an Amish man from nearby Kidron, said the young people "shouldn't have been throwing tomatoes." "But if people start shooting people for throwing tomatoes, this country's in bad shape," he said. Keim was born into an Amish family, but his family left the Amish church and became Mennonites, said Yoder. Mennonites share similar beliefs with the Amish, but drive cars and use more modern conveniences. "He was a real outgoing person, always willing to help you," Yoder said |
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[2] Posted by Joseph M. Ferris 09-04-2003, 01:36 PM |
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[3] Posted by Nick W. 09-04-2003, 05:14 PM |
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Heh, I guess the next time someone says "throw another tomato and I'll
shoot you" they'll believe them. I'd be hot too if my car was getting lit up all day but some punks hiding in a corn field throwing stuff. Plus tomato juices are acidic, they might **** up your paint job if you can't wash it off quick enough. -Nick "Chitterling" <chitterling_gritskisser@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:e8b7f323.0309040757.7f9125b3@posting.google.c om... > Ohio Amish Community Shaken by Shooting > Thu Sep 4, 2:55 AM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo! > > > By JOE MILICIA, Associated Press Writer > > MOUNT HOPE, Ohio - It's an annual prank in this tranquil Amish > community, where men wear straw hats and women bonnets and plain > dresses: Youngsters hide in cornfields and hurl tomatoes at passing > cars. > > This year, the mischief turned deadly. > > A motorist who had been pelted several times on Labor Day got out of > his car and fired three to five rounds into the 7-foot-high corn, > killing 23-year-old Steven L. Keim. > > No arrest has been made. > > Residents are reeling from shock, unable to understand why anybody > would retaliate so violently. Authorities say the county hadn't seen a > firearm-related homicide in about three decades. > > "The prank has gone on for years and years," said Marty Yoder, who > owns Marty's Shoes in this town about 60 miles south of Cleveland. > "All over the county it's been happening every year." > > > The shooting occurred just north of Mount Hope in Holmes County, where > the clip-clop of horses pulling Amish buggies is just as common as the > sound of passing automobiles. > > > Holmes County has what is believed to be the world's largest > population of Amish, who do not believe in modern conveniences such as > electricity and automobiles. > > > Keim, 23, an Apple Creek resident of Amish heritage, died of multiple > wounds to the chest, Holmes County Coroner Robert Anthony said. > > > Keim was with about 10 other members of the Amish community, ages 15 > to 23. The group told the sheriff's office they had been throwing > tomatoes and firing paintball guns at passing vehicles. > > > The crime scene is marked by trampled corn stalks that interrupt an > otherwise uniform stretch roadside corn. About eight rows into the > cornfield, well hidden from the road, two buckets of rotting, > fly-covered tomatoes still sat. > > > According to the sheriff's department, the driver of a Lincoln or > Cadillac stopped, got out and threatened to shoot whoever threw the > tomatoes Monday night. > > > The vehicle turned around and drove past the cornfield again. The car > was struck with tomatoes a second time. > > > About 25 minutes later the vehicle passed the cornfield two more > times. On a third pass, the driver stopped and challenged the group to > throw more tomatoes - then fired his shotgun into the cornfield. > > > The sheriff's department did not have a suspect, only a vague > description of a middle-aged male of medium height. > > > Residents say the community will be nervous until the shooter is > caught. > > > "People won't be resting too good until they know who it is at least," > said Ivan Miller, 41. "He should be punished. The guy lost it." > > > Wayne Miller, an Amish man from nearby Kidron, said the young people > "shouldn't have been throwing tomatoes." > > "But if people start shooting people for throwing tomatoes, this > country's in bad shape," he said. > > Keim was born into an Amish family, but his family left the Amish > church and became Mennonites, said Yoder. > > Mennonites share similar beliefs with the Amish, but drive cars and > use more modern conveniences. > > "He was a real outgoing person, always willing to help you," Yoder > said |
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[4] Posted by vercingetorix 09-04-2003, 05:55 PM |
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While there's no paintjob worth shooting someone over, keep in mind, these
were AMISH vandals. Amish. Where do Amish people get off throwing tomatoes at the rest of us? Sounds to me like the Amish Village has lost control of its young folk. And what are they doing with paintball guns anyway? Amish people are supposed to disdain technology and frivolity. A paintball gun qualifies as both. Come to think of it, they're supposed to eschew fun, too, the Amish. Like throwing tomatoes at cars, a fun activity, would be verboten for them. So basically, you've got Amish Youth Out of Control, Amish Delinquents Terrorizing Tourists, Amish Culture Ruined By Paintball Influence, Amish Tomato Throwers Break God's Law, Stew in Hell. Someone had to stop them. The shooter probably saved the village and kept the other juvenile delinquents involved from going to hell. At least, it would be fun to argue that in court. Hopefully the other Steven King-like attributes of the case will eclipse the paintball-is-baaaad angle. Fuckin' Amish, anyway. -- "Ah, be careful what you say. Or you'll give yourself away. Odds are you won't live to see tomorrow." --- Johnny Rivers "Chitterling" <chitterling_gritskisser@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:e8b7f323.0309040757.7f9125b3@posting.google.c om... > Ohio Amish Community Shaken by Shooting > Thu Sep 4, 2:55 AM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo! > > > By JOE MILICIA, Associated Press Writer > > MOUNT HOPE, Ohio - It's an annual prank in this tranquil Amish > community, where men wear straw hats and women bonnets and plain > dresses: Youngsters hide in cornfields and hurl tomatoes at passing > cars. > > This year, the mischief turned deadly. > > A motorist who had been pelted several times on Labor Day got out of > his car and fired three to five rounds into the 7-foot-high corn, > killing 23-year-old Steven L. Keim. > > No arrest has been made. > > Residents are reeling from shock, unable to understand why anybody > would retaliate so violently. Authorities say the county hadn't seen a > firearm-related homicide in about three decades. > > "The prank has gone on for years and years," said Marty Yoder, who > owns Marty's Shoes in this town about 60 miles south of Cleveland. > "All over the county it's been happening every year." > > > The shooting occurred just north of Mount Hope in Holmes County, where > the clip-clop of horses pulling Amish buggies is just as common as the > sound of passing automobiles. > > > Holmes County has what is believed to be the world's largest > population of Amish, who do not believe in modern conveniences such as > electricity and automobiles. > > > Keim, 23, an Apple Creek resident of Amish heritage, died of multiple > wounds to the chest, Holmes County Coroner Robert Anthony said. > > > Keim was with about 10 other members of the Amish community, ages 15 > to 23. The group told the sheriff's office they had been throwing > tomatoes and firing paintball guns at passing vehicles. > > > The crime scene is marked by trampled corn stalks that interrupt an > otherwise uniform stretch roadside corn. About eight rows into the > cornfield, well hidden from the road, two buckets of rotting, > fly-covered tomatoes still sat. > > > According to the sheriff's department, the driver of a Lincoln or > Cadillac stopped, got out and threatened to shoot whoever threw the > tomatoes Monday night. > > > The vehicle turned around and drove past the cornfield again. The car > was struck with tomatoes a second time. > > > About 25 minutes later the vehicle passed the cornfield two more > times. On a third pass, the driver stopped and challenged the group to > throw more tomatoes - then fired his shotgun into the cornfield. > > > The sheriff's department did not have a suspect, only a vague > description of a middle-aged male of medium height. > > > Residents say the community will be nervous until the shooter is > caught. > > > "People won't be resting too good until they know who it is at least," > said Ivan Miller, 41. "He should be punished. The guy lost it." > > > Wayne Miller, an Amish man from nearby Kidron, said the young people > "shouldn't have been throwing tomatoes." > > "But if people start shooting people for throwing tomatoes, this > country's in bad shape," he said. > > Keim was born into an Amish family, but his family left the Amish > church and became Mennonites, said Yoder. > > Mennonites share similar beliefs with the Amish, but drive cars and > use more modern conveniences. > > "He was a real outgoing person, always willing to help you," Yoder > said |
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[5] Posted by Nick W. 09-04-2003, 06:55 PM |
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If you grew up your whole life without electricity and modern conveniences,
then I think sitting at home in front of the tv with digital cable and having a few beers with your friends would be awesome. -Nick "Michael Hughes" <dapaintschmuck**IZASEXYBEAST**@rcn.com> wrote in message news:bj8ag0$r3k$1@bob.news.rcn.net... > if you were amish, what would the first three things you'd do as soon as you > turned 18. > > 1. Get the **** out of there > 2. Drink like a fucking fish/Do as many drugs as possible > 3. Have as much fun as humanly possible. > > > "vercingetorix" <x@starband.net> wrote in message > news:5FN5b.1111$jF.15980637@twister1.starband.net. .. > > While there's no paintjob worth shooting someone over, keep in mind, these > > were AMISH vandals. Amish. Where do Amish people get off throwing tomatoes > > at the rest of us? Sounds to me like the Amish Village has lost control of > > its young folk. And what are they doing with paintball guns anyway? Amish > > people are supposed to disdain technology and frivolity. A paintball gun > > qualifies as both. Come to think of it, they're supposed to eschew fun, > too, > > the Amish. Like throwing tomatoes at cars, a fun activity, would be > verboten > > for them. So basically, you've got Amish Youth Out of Control, Amish > > Delinquents Terrorizing Tourists, Amish Culture Ruined By Paintball > > Influence, Amish Tomato Throwers Break God's Law, Stew in Hell. Someone > had > > to stop them. The shooter probably saved the village and kept the other > > juvenile delinquents involved from going to hell. At least, it would be > fun > > to argue that in court. Hopefully the other Steven King-like attributes of > > the case will eclipse the paintball-is-baaaad angle. Fuckin' Amish, > anyway. > > > > > > -- > > "Ah, be careful what you say. Or you'll give yourself away. Odds are you > > won't live to see tomorrow." > > --- Johnny Rivers > > "Chitterling" <chitterling_gritskisser@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:e8b7f323.0309040757.7f9125b3@posting.google.c om... > > > Ohio Amish Community Shaken by Shooting > > > Thu Sep 4, 2:55 AM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo! > > > > > > > > > By JOE MILICIA, Associated Press Writer > > > > > > MOUNT HOPE, Ohio - It's an annual prank in this tranquil Amish > > > community, where men wear straw hats and women bonnets and plain > > > dresses: Youngsters hide in cornfields and hurl tomatoes at passing > > > cars. > > > > > > This year, the mischief turned deadly. > > > > > > A motorist who had been pelted several times on Labor Day got out of > > > his car and fired three to five rounds into the 7-foot-high corn, > > > killing 23-year-old Steven L. Keim. > > > > > > No arrest has been made. > > > > > > Residents are reeling from shock, unable to understand why anybody > > > would retaliate so violently. Authorities say the county hadn't seen a > > > firearm-related homicide in about three decades. > > > > > > "The prank has gone on for years and years," said Marty Yoder, who > > > owns Marty's Shoes in this town about 60 miles south of Cleveland. > > > "All over the county it's been happening every year." > > > > > > > > > The shooting occurred just north of Mount Hope in Holmes County, where > > > the clip-clop of horses pulling Amish buggies is just as common as the > > > sound of passing automobiles. > > > > > > > > > Holmes County has what is believed to be the world's largest > > > population of Amish, who do not believe in modern conveniences such as > > > electricity and automobiles. > > > > > > > > > Keim, 23, an Apple Creek resident of Amish heritage, died of multiple > > > wounds to the chest, Holmes County Coroner Robert Anthony said. > > > > > > > > > Keim was with about 10 other members of the Amish community, ages 15 > > > to 23. The group told the sheriff's office they had been throwing > > > tomatoes and firing paintball guns at passing vehicles. > > > > > > > > > The crime scene is marked by trampled corn stalks that interrupt an > > > otherwise uniform stretch roadside corn. About eight rows into the > > > cornfield, well hidden from the road, two buckets of rotting, > > > fly-covered tomatoes still sat. > > > > > > > > > According to the sheriff's department, the driver of a Lincoln or > > > Cadillac stopped, got out and threatened to shoot whoever threw the > > > tomatoes Monday night. > > > > > > > > > The vehicle turned around and drove past the cornfield again. The car > > > was struck with tomatoes a second time. > > > > > > > > > About 25 minutes later the vehicle passed the cornfield two more > > > times. On a third pass, the driver stopped and challenged the group to > > > throw more tomatoes - then fired his shotgun into the cornfield. > > > > > > > > > The sheriff's department did not have a suspect, only a vague > > > description of a middle-aged male of medium height. > > > > > > > > > Residents say the community will be nervous until the shooter is > > > caught. > > > > > > > > > "People won't be resting too good until they know who it is at least," > > > said Ivan Miller, 41. "He should be punished. The guy lost it." > > > > > > > > > Wayne Miller, an Amish man from nearby Kidron, said the young people > > > "shouldn't have been throwing tomatoes." > > > > > > "But if people start shooting people for throwing tomatoes, this > > > country's in bad shape," he said. > > > > > > Keim was born into an Amish family, but his family left the Amish > > > church and became Mennonites, said Yoder. > > > > > > Mennonites share similar beliefs with the Amish, but drive cars and > > > use more modern conveniences. > > > > > > "He was a real outgoing person, always willing to help you," Yoder > > > said > > > > > if you were amish, what would the first three things you'd do as soon as you > turned 18. > > 1. Get the **** out of there > 2. Drink like a fucking fish/Do as many drugs as possible > 3. Have as much fun as humanly possible. > > > "vercingetorix" <x@starband.net> wrote in message > news:5FN5b.1111$jF.15980637@twister1.starband.net. .. > > While there's no paintjob worth shooting someone over, keep in mind, these > > were AMISH vandals. Amish. Where do Amish people get off throwing tomatoes > > at the rest of us? Sounds to me like the Amish Village has lost control of > > its young folk. And what are they doing with paintball guns anyway? Amish > > people are supposed to disdain technology and frivolity. A paintball gun > > qualifies as both. Come to think of it, they're supposed to eschew fun, > too, > > the Amish. Like throwing tomatoes at cars, a fun activity, would be > verboten > > for them. So basically, you've got Amish Youth Out of Control, Amish > > Delinquents Terrorizing Tourists, Amish Culture Ruined By Paintball > > Influence, Amish Tomato Throwers Break God's Law, Stew in Hell. Someone > had > > to stop them. The shooter probably saved the village and kept the other > > juvenile delinquents involved from going to hell. At least, it would be > fun > > to argue that in court. Hopefully the other Steven King-like attributes of > > the case will eclipse the paintball-is-baaaad angle. Fuckin' Amish, > anyway. > > > > > > -- > > "Ah, be careful what you say. Or you'll give yourself away. Odds are you > > won't live to see tomorrow." > > --- Johnny Rivers > > "Chitterling" <chitterling_gritskisser@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:e8b7f323.0309040757.7f9125b3@posting.google.c om... > > > Ohio Amish Community Shaken by Shooting > > > Thu Sep 4, 2:55 AM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo! > > > > > > > > > By JOE MILICIA, Associated Press Writer > > > > > > MOUNT HOPE, Ohio - It's an annual prank in this tranquil Amish > > > community, where men wear straw hats and women bonnets and plain > > > dresses: Youngsters hide in cornfields and hurl tomatoes at passing > > > cars. > > > > > > This year, the mischief turned deadly. > > > > > > A motorist who had been pelted several times on Labor Day got out of > > > his car and fired three to five rounds into the 7-foot-high corn, > > > killing 23-year-old Steven L. Keim. > > > > > > No arrest has been made. > > > > > > Residents are reeling from shock, unable to understand why anybody > > > would retaliate so violently. Authorities say the county hadn't seen a > > > firearm-related homicide in about three decades. > > > > > > "The prank has gone on for years and years," said Marty Yoder, who > > > owns Marty's Shoes in this town about 60 miles south of Cleveland. > > > "All over the county it's been happening every year." > > > > > > > > > The shooting occurred just north of Mount Hope in Holmes County, where > > > the clip-clop of horses pulling Amish buggies is just as common as the > > > sound of passing automobiles. > > > > > > > > > Holmes County has what is believed to be the world's largest > > > population of Amish, who do not believe in modern conveniences such as > > > electricity and automobiles. > > > > > > > > > Keim, 23, an Apple Creek resident of Amish heritage, died of multiple > > > wounds to the chest, Holmes County Coroner Robert Anthony said. > > > > > > > > > Keim was with about 10 other members of the Amish community, ages 15 > > > to 23. The group told the sheriff's office they had been throwing > > > tomatoes and firing paintball guns at passing vehicles. > > > > > > > > > The crime scene is marked by trampled corn stalks that interrupt an > > > otherwise uniform stretch roadside corn. About eight rows into the > > > cornfield, well hidden from the road, two buckets of rotting, > > > fly-covered tomatoes still sat. > > > > > > > > > According to the sheriff's department, the driver of a Lincoln or > > > Cadillac stopped, got out and threatened to shoot whoever threw the > > > tomatoes Monday night. > > > > > > > > > The vehicle turned around and drove past the cornfield again. The car > > > was struck with tomatoes a second time. > > > > > > > > > About 25 minutes later the vehicle passed the cornfield two more > > > times. On a third pass, the driver stopped and challenged the group to > > > throw more tomatoes - then fired his shotgun into the cornfield. > > > > > > > > > The sheriff's department did not have a suspect, only a vague > > > description of a middle-aged male of medium height. > > > > > > > > > Residents say the community will be nervous until the shooter is > > > caught. > > > > > > > > > "People won't be resting too good until they know who it is at least," > > > said Ivan Miller, 41. "He should be punished. The guy lost it." > > > > > > > > > Wayne Miller, an Amish man from nearby Kidron, said the young people > > > "shouldn't have been throwing tomatoes." > > > > > > "But if people start shooting people for throwing tomatoes, this > > > country's in bad shape," he said. > > > > > > Keim was born into an Amish family, but his family left the Amish > > > church and became Mennonites, said Yoder. > > > > > > Mennonites share similar beliefs with the Amish, but drive cars and > > > use more modern conveniences. > > > > > > "He was a real outgoing person, always willing to help you," Yoder > > > said > > > > > > |
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[6] Posted by Daniel Martin 09-04-2003, 07:17 PM |
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You're such a punk Mikey.
"Michael Hughes" <dapaintschmuck**IZASEXYBEAST**@rcn.com> wrote in message news:bj8ag0$r3k$1@bob.news.rcn.net... > if you were amish, what would the first three things you'd do as soon as you > turned 18. > > 1. Get the **** out of there > 2. Drink like a fucking fish/Do as many drugs as possible > 3. Have as much fun as humanly possible. > > > "vercingetorix" <x@starband.net> wrote in message > news:5FN5b.1111$jF.15980637@twister1.starband.net. .. > > While there's no paintjob worth shooting someone over, keep in mind, these > > were AMISH vandals. Amish. Where do Amish people get off throwing tomatoes > > at the rest of us? Sounds to me like the Amish Village has lost control of > > its young folk. And what are they doing with paintball guns anyway? Amish > > people are supposed to disdain technology and frivolity. A paintball gun > > qualifies as both. Come to think of it, they're supposed to eschew fun, > too, > > the Amish. Like throwing tomatoes at cars, a fun activity, would be > verboten > > for them. So basically, you've got Amish Youth Out of Control, Amish > > Delinquents Terrorizing Tourists, Amish Culture Ruined By Paintball > > Influence, Amish Tomato Throwers Break God's Law, Stew in Hell. Someone > had > > to stop them. The shooter probably saved the village and kept the other > > juvenile delinquents involved from going to hell. At least, it would be > fun > > to argue that in court. Hopefully the other Steven King-like attributes of > > the case will eclipse the paintball-is-baaaad angle. Fuckin' Amish, > anyway. > > > > > > -- > > "Ah, be careful what you say. Or you'll give yourself away. Odds are you > > won't live to see tomorrow." > > --- Johnny Rivers > > "Chitterling" <chitterling_gritskisser@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:e8b7f323.0309040757.7f9125b3@posting.google.c om... > > > Ohio Amish Community Shaken by Shooting > > > Thu Sep 4, 2:55 AM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo! > > > > > > > > > By JOE MILICIA, Associated Press Writer > > > > > > MOUNT HOPE, Ohio - It's an annual prank in this tranquil Amish > > > community, where men wear straw hats and women bonnets and plain > > > dresses: Youngsters hide in cornfields and hurl tomatoes at passing > > > cars. > > > > > > This year, the mischief turned deadly. > > > > > > A motorist who had been pelted several times on Labor Day got out of > > > his car and fired three to five rounds into the 7-foot-high corn, > > > killing 23-year-old Steven L. Keim. > > > > > > No arrest has been made. > > > > > > Residents are reeling from shock, unable to understand why anybody > > > would retaliate so violently. Authorities say the county hadn't seen a > > > firearm-related homicide in about three decades. > > > > > > "The prank has gone on for years and years," said Marty Yoder, who > > > owns Marty's Shoes in this town about 60 miles south of Cleveland. > > > "All over the county it's been happening every year." > > > > > > > > > The shooting occurred just north of Mount Hope in Holmes County, where > > > the clip-clop of horses pulling Amish buggies is just as common as the > > > sound of passing automobiles. > > > > > > > > > Holmes County has what is believed to be the world's largest > > > population of Amish, who do not believe in modern conveniences such as > > > electricity and automobiles. > > > > > > > > > Keim, 23, an Apple Creek resident of Amish heritage, died of multiple > > > wounds to the chest, Holmes County Coroner Robert Anthony said. > > > > > > > > > Keim was with about 10 other members of the Amish community, ages 15 > > > to 23. The group told the sheriff's office they had been throwing > > > tomatoes and firing paintball guns at passing vehicles. > > > > > > > > > The crime scene is marked by trampled corn stalks that interrupt an > > > otherwise uniform stretch roadside corn. About eight rows into the > > > cornfield, well hidden from the road, two buckets of rotting, > > > fly-covered tomatoes still sat. > > > > > > > > > According to the sheriff's department, the driver of a Lincoln or > > > Cadillac stopped, got out and threatened to shoot whoever threw the > > > tomatoes Monday night. > > > > > > > > > The vehicle turned around and drove past the cornfield again. The car > > > was struck with tomatoes a second time. > > > > > > > > > About 25 minutes later the vehicle passed the cornfield two more > > > times. On a third pass, the driver stopped and challenged the group to > > > throw more tomatoes - then fired his shotgun into the cornfield. > > > > > > > > > The sheriff's department did not have a suspect, only a vague > > > description of a middle-aged male of medium height. > > > > > > > > > Residents say the community will be nervous until the shooter is > > > caught. > > > > > > > > > "People won't be resting too good until they know who it is at least," > > > said Ivan Miller, 41. "He should be punished. The guy lost it." > > > > > > > > > Wayne Miller, an Amish man from nearby Kidron, said the young people > > > "shouldn't have been throwing tomatoes." > > > > > > "But if people start shooting people for throwing tomatoes, this > > > country's in bad shape," he said. > > > > > > Keim was born into an Amish family, but his family left the Amish > > > church and became Mennonites, said Yoder. > > > > > > Mennonites share similar beliefs with the Amish, but drive cars and > > > use more modern conveniences. > > > > > > "He was a real outgoing person, always willing to help you," Yoder > > > said > > > > > if you were amish, what would the first three things you'd do as soon as you > turned 18. > > 1. Get the **** out of there > 2. Drink like a fucking fish/Do as many drugs as possible > 3. Have as much fun as humanly possible. > > > "vercingetorix" <x@starband.net> wrote in message > news:5FN5b.1111$jF.15980637@twister1.starband.net. .. > > While there's no paintjob worth shooting someone over, keep in mind, these > > were AMISH vandals. Amish. Where do Amish people get off throwing tomatoes > > at the rest of us? Sounds to me like the Amish Village has lost control of > > its young folk. And what are they doing with paintball guns anyway? Amish > > people are supposed to disdain technology and frivolity. A paintball gun > > qualifies as both. Come to think of it, they're supposed to eschew fun, > too, > > the Amish. Like throwing tomatoes at cars, a fun activity, would be > verboten > > for them. So basically, you've got Amish Youth Out of Control, Amish > > Delinquents Terrorizing Tourists, Amish Culture Ruined By Paintball > > Influence, Amish Tomato Throwers Break God's Law, Stew in Hell. Someone > had > > to stop them. The shooter probably saved the village and kept the other > > juvenile delinquents involved from going to hell. At least, it would be > fun > > to argue that in court. Hopefully the other Steven King-like attributes of > > the case will eclipse the paintball-is-baaaad angle. Fuckin' Amish, > anyway. > > > > > > -- > > "Ah, be careful what you say. Or you'll give yourself away. Odds are you > > won't live to see tomorrow." > > --- Johnny Rivers > > "Chitterling" <chitterling_gritskisser@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:e8b7f323.0309040757.7f9125b3@posting.google.c om... > > > Ohio Amish Community Shaken by Shooting > > > Thu Sep 4, 2:55 AM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo! > > > > > > > > > By JOE MILICIA, Associated Press Writer > > > > > > MOUNT HOPE, Ohio - It's an annual prank in this tranquil Amish > > > community, where men wear straw hats and women bonnets and plain > > > dresses: Youngsters hide in cornfields and hurl tomatoes at passing > > > cars. > > > > > > This year, the mischief turned deadly. > > > > > > A motorist who had been pelted several times on Labor Day got out of > > > his car and fired three to five rounds into the 7-foot-high corn, > > > killing 23-year-old Steven L. Keim. > > > > > > No arrest has been made. > > > > > > Residents are reeling from shock, unable to understand why anybody > > > would retaliate so violently. Authorities say the county hadn't seen a > > > firearm-related homicide in about three decades. > > > > > > "The prank has gone on for years and years," said Marty Yoder, who > > > owns Marty's Shoes in this town about 60 miles south of Cleveland. > > > "All over the county it's been happening every year." > > > > > > > > > The shooting occurred just north of Mount Hope in Holmes County, where > > > the clip-clop of horses pulling Amish buggies is just as common as the > > > sound of passing automobiles. > > > > > > > > > Holmes County has what is believed to be the world's largest > > > population of Amish, who do not believe in modern conveniences such as > > > electricity and automobiles. > > > > > > > > > Keim, 23, an Apple Creek resident of Amish heritage, died of multiple > > > wounds to the chest, Holmes County Coroner Robert Anthony said. > > > > > > > > > Keim was with about 10 other members of the Amish community, ages 15 > > > to 23. The group told the sheriff's office they had been throwing > > > tomatoes and firing paintball guns at passing vehicles. > > > > > > > > > The crime scene is marked by trampled corn stalks that interrupt an > > > otherwise uniform stretch roadside corn. About eight rows into the > > > cornfield, well hidden from the road, two buckets of rotting, > > > fly-covered tomatoes still sat. > > > > > > > > > According to the sheriff's department, the driver of a Lincoln or > > > Cadillac stopped, got out and threatened to shoot whoever threw the > > > tomatoes Monday night. > > > > > > > > > The vehicle turned around and drove past the cornfield again. The car > > > was struck with tomatoes a second time. > > > > > > > > > About 25 minutes later the vehicle passed the cornfield two more > > > times. On a third pass, the driver stopped and challenged the group to > > > throw more tomatoes - then fired his shotgun into the cornfield. > > > > > > > > > The sheriff's department did not have a suspect, only a vague > > > description of a middle-aged male of medium height. > > > > > > > > > Residents say the community will be nervous until the shooter is > > > caught. > > > > > > > > > "People won't be resting too good until they know who it is at least," > > > said Ivan Miller, 41. "He should be punished. The guy lost it." > > > > > > > > > Wayne Miller, an Amish man from nearby Kidron, said the young people > > > "shouldn't have been throwing tomatoes." > > > > > > "But if people start shooting people for throwing tomatoes, this > > > country's in bad shape," he said. > > > > > > Keim was born into an Amish family, but his family left the Amish > > > church and became Mennonites, said Yoder. > > > > > > Mennonites share similar beliefs with the Amish, but drive cars and > > > use more modern conveniences. > > > > > > "He was a real outgoing person, always willing to help you," Yoder > > > said > > > > > > |
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If i was amish, i'd be all like. **** this shit.
40 oz to freedom "Nick W." <nick**please-remove-this-part**@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1KWcnfYK2bVAKcqiXTWJgA@comcast.com... > If you grew up your whole life without electricity and modern conveniences, > then I think sitting at home in front of the tv with digital cable and > having a few beers with your friends would be awesome. > > -Nick > > > "Michael Hughes" <dapaintschmuck**IZASEXYBEAST**@rcn.com> wrote in message > news:bj8ag0$r3k$1@bob.news.rcn.net... > > if you were amish, what would the first three things you'd do as soon as > you > > turned 18. > > > > 1. Get the **** out of there > > 2. Drink like a fucking fish/Do as many drugs as possible > > 3. Have as much fun as humanly possible. > > > > > > "vercingetorix" <x@starband.net> wrote in message > > news:5FN5b.1111$jF.15980637@twister1.starband.net. .. > > > While there's no paintjob worth shooting someone over, keep in mind, > these > > > were AMISH vandals. Amish. Where do Amish people get off throwing > tomatoes > > > at the rest of us? Sounds to me like the Amish Village has lost control > of > > > its young folk. And what are they doing with paintball guns anyway? > Amish > > > people are supposed to disdain technology and frivolity. A paintball gun > > > qualifies as both. Come to think of it, they're supposed to eschew fun, > > too, > > > the Amish. Like throwing tomatoes at cars, a fun activity, would be > > verboten > > > for them. So basically, you've got Amish Youth Out of Control, Amish > > > Delinquents Terrorizing Tourists, Amish Culture Ruined By Paintball > > > Influence, Amish Tomato Throwers Break God's Law, Stew in Hell. Someone > > had > > > to stop them. The shooter probably saved the village and kept the other > > > juvenile delinquents involved from going to hell. At least, it would be > > fun > > > to argue that in court. Hopefully the other Steven King-like attributes > of > > > the case will eclipse the paintball-is-baaaad angle. Fuckin' Amish, > > anyway. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "Ah, be careful what you say. Or you'll give yourself away. Odds are you > > > won't live to see tomorrow." > > > --- Johnny Rivers > > > "Chitterling" <chitterling_gritskisser@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > news:e8b7f323.0309040757.7f9125b3@posting.google.c om... > > > > Ohio Amish Community Shaken by Shooting > > > > Thu Sep 4, 2:55 AM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo! > > > > > > > > > > > > By JOE MILICIA, Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > MOUNT HOPE, Ohio - It's an annual prank in this tranquil Amish > > > > community, where men wear straw hats and women bonnets and plain > > > > dresses: Youngsters hide in cornfields and hurl tomatoes at passing > > > > cars. > > > > > > > > This year, the mischief turned deadly. > > > > > > > > A motorist who had been pelted several times on Labor Day got out of > > > > his car and fired three to five rounds into the 7-foot-high corn, > > > > killing 23-year-old Steven L. Keim. > > > > > > > > No arrest has been made. > > > > > > > > Residents are reeling from shock, unable to understand why anybody > > > > would retaliate so violently. Authorities say the county hadn't seen a > > > > firearm-related homicide in about three decades. > > > > > > > > "The prank has gone on for years and years," said Marty Yoder, who > > > > owns Marty's Shoes in this town about 60 miles south of Cleveland. > > > > "All over the county it's been happening every year." > > > > > > > > > > > > The shooting occurred just north of Mount Hope in Holmes County, where > > > > the clip-clop of horses pulling Amish buggies is just as common as the > > > > sound of passing automobiles. > > > > > > > > > > > > Holmes County has what is believed to be the world's largest > > > > population of Amish, who do not believe in modern conveniences such as > > > > electricity and automobiles. > > > > > > > > > > > > Keim, 23, an Apple Creek resident of Amish heritage, died of multiple > > > > wounds to the chest, Holmes County Coroner Robert Anthony said. > > > > > > > > > > > > Keim was with about 10 other members of the Amish community, ages 15 > > > > to 23. The group told the sheriff's office they had been throwing > > > > tomatoes and firing paintball guns at passing vehicles. > > > > > > > > > > > > The crime scene is marked by trampled corn stalks that interrupt an > > > > otherwise uniform stretch roadside corn. About eight rows into the > > > > cornfield, well hidden from the road, two buckets of rotting, > > > > fly-covered tomatoes still sat. > > > > > > > > > > > > According to the sheriff's department, the driver of a Lincoln or > > > > Cadillac stopped, got out and threatened to shoot whoever threw the > > > > tomatoes Monday night. > > > > > > > > > > > > The vehicle turned around and drove past the cornfield again. The car > > > > was struck with tomatoes a second time. > > > > > > > > > > > > About 25 minutes later the vehicle passed the cornfield two more > > > > times. On a third pass, the driver stopped and challenged the group to > > > > throw more tomatoes - then fired his shotgun into the cornfield. > > > > > > > > > > > > The sheriff's department did not have a suspect, only a vague > > > > description of a middle-aged male of medium height. > > > > > > > > > > > > Residents say the community will be nervous until the shooter is > > > > caught. > > > > > > > > > > > > "People won't be resting too good until they know who it is at least," > > > > said Ivan Miller, 41. "He should be punished. The guy lost it." > > > > > > > > > > > > Wayne Miller, an Amish man from nearby Kidron, said the young people > > > > "shouldn't have been throwing tomatoes." > > > > > > > > "But if people start shooting people for throwing tomatoes, this > > > > country's in bad shape," he said. > > > > > > > > Keim was born into an Amish family, but his family left the Amish > > > > church and became Mennonites, said Yoder. > > > > > > > > Mennonites share similar beliefs with the Amish, but drive cars and > > > > use more modern conveniences. > > > > > > > > "He was a real outgoing person, always willing to help you," Yoder > > > > said > > > > > > > > if you were amish, what would the first three things you'd do as soon as > you > > turned 18. > > > > 1. Get the **** out of there > > 2. Drink like a fucking fish/Do as many drugs as possible > > 3. Have as much fun as humanly possible. > > > > > > "vercingetorix" <x@starband.net> wrote in message > > news:5FN5b.1111$jF.15980637@twister1.starband.net. .. > > > While there's no paintjob worth shooting someone over, keep in mind, > these > > > were AMISH vandals. Amish. Where do Amish people get off throwing > tomatoes > > > at the rest of us? Sounds to me like the Amish Village has lost control > of > > > its young folk. And what are they doing with paintball guns anyway? > Amish > > > people are supposed to disdain technology and frivolity. A paintball gun > > > qualifies as both. Come to think of it, they're supposed to eschew fun, > > too, > > > the Amish. Like throwing tomatoes at cars, a fun activity, would be > > verboten > > > for them. So basically, you've got Amish Youth Out of Control, Amish > > > Delinquents Terrorizing Tourists, Amish Culture Ruined By Paintball > > > Influence, Amish Tomato Throwers Break God's Law, Stew in Hell. Someone > > had > > > to stop them. The shooter probably saved the village and kept the other > > > juvenile delinquents involved from going to hell. At least, it would be > > fun > > > to argue that in court. Hopefully the other Steven King-like attributes > of > > > the case will eclipse the paintball-is-baaaad angle. Fuckin' Amish, > > anyway. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "Ah, be careful what you say. Or you'll give yourself away. Odds are you > > > won't live to see tomorrow." > > > --- Johnny Rivers > > > "Chitterling" <chitterling_gritskisser@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > news:e8b7f323.0309040757.7f9125b3@posting.google.c om... > > > > Ohio Amish Community Shaken by Shooting > > > > Thu Sep 4, 2:55 AM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo! > > > > > > > > > > > > By JOE MILICIA, Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > MOUNT HOPE, Ohio - It's an annual prank in this tranquil Amish > > > > community, where men wear straw hats and women bonnets and plain > > > > dresses: Youngsters hide in cornfields and hurl tomatoes at passing > > > > cars. > > > > > > > > This year, the mischief turned deadly. > > > > > > > > A motorist who had been pelted several times on Labor Day got out of > > > > his car and fired three to five rounds into the 7-foot-high corn, > > > > killing 23-year-old Steven L. Keim. > > > > > > > > No arrest has been made. > > > > > > > > Residents are reeling from shock, unable to understand why anybody > > > > would retaliate so violently. Authorities say the county hadn't seen a > > > > firearm-related homicide in about three decades. > > > > > > > > "The prank has gone on for years and years," said Marty Yoder, who > > > > owns Marty's Shoes in this town about 60 miles south of Cleveland. > > > > "All over the county it's been happening every year." > > > > > > > > > > > > The shooting occurred just north of Mount Hope in Holmes County, where > > > > the clip-clop of horses pulling Amish buggies is just as common as the > > > > sound of passing automobiles. > > > > > > > > > > > > Holmes County has what is believed to be the world's largest > > > > population of Amish, who do not believe in modern conveniences such as > > > > electricity and automobiles. > > > > > > > > > > > > Keim, 23, an Apple Creek resident of Amish heritage, died of multiple > > > > wounds to the chest, Holmes County Coroner Robert Anthony said. > > > > > > > > > > > > Keim was with about 10 other members of the Amish community, ages 15 > > > > to 23. The group told the sheriff's office they had been throwing > > > > tomatoes and firing paintball guns at passing vehicles. > > > > > > > > > > > > The crime scene is marked by trampled corn stalks that interrupt an > > > > otherwise uniform stretch roadside corn. About eight rows into the > > > > cornfield, well hidden from the road, two buckets of rotting, > > > > fly-covered tomatoes still sat. > > > > > > > > > > > > According to the sheriff's department, the driver of a Lincoln or > > > > Cadillac stopped, got out and threatened to shoot whoever threw the > > > > tomatoes Monday night. > > > > > > > > > > > > The vehicle turned around and drove past the cornfield again. The car > > > > was struck with tomatoes a second time. > > > > > > > > > > > > About 25 minutes later the vehicle passed the cornfield two more > > > > times. On a third pass, the driver stopped and challenged the group to > > > > throw more tomatoes - then fired his shotgun into the cornfield. > > > > > > > > > > > > The sheriff's department did not have a suspect, only a vague > > > > description of a middle-aged male of medium height. > > > > > > > > > > > > Residents say the community will be nervous until the shooter is > > > > caught. > > > > > > > > > > > > "People won't be resting too good until they know who it is at least," > > > > said Ivan Miller, 41. "He should be punished. The guy lost it." > > > > > > > > > > > > Wayne Miller, an Amish man from nearby Kidron, said the young people > > > > "shouldn't have been throwing tomatoes." > > > > > > > > "But if people start shooting people for throwing tomatoes, this > > > > country's in bad shape," he said. > > > > > > > > Keim was born into an Amish family, but his family left the Amish > > > > church and became Mennonites, said Yoder. > > > > > > > > Mennonites share similar beliefs with the Amish, but drive cars and > > > > use more modern conveniences. > > > > > > > > "He was a real outgoing person, always willing to help you," Yoder > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > > > If i was amish, i'd be all like. **** this shit. 40 oz to freedom "Nick W." <nick**please-remove-this-part**@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1KWcnfYK2bVAKcqiXTWJgA@comcast.com... > If you grew up your whole life without electricity and modern conveniences, > then I think sitting at home in front of the tv with digital cable and > having a few beers with your friends would be awesome. > > -Nick > > > "Michael Hughes" <dapaintschmuck**IZASEXYBEAST**@rcn.com> wrote in message > news:bj8ag0$r3k$1@bob.news.rcn.net... > > if you were amish, what would the first three things you'd do as soon as > you > > turned 18. > > > > 1. Get the **** out of there > > 2. Drink like a fucking fish/Do as many drugs as possible > > 3. Have as much fun as humanly possible. > > > > > > "vercingetorix" <x@starband.net> wrote in message > > news:5FN5b.1111$jF.15980637@twister1.starband.net. .. > > > While there's no paintjob worth shooting someone over, keep in mind, > these > > > were AMISH vandals. Amish. Where do Amish people get off throwing > tomatoes > > > at the rest of us? Sounds to me like the Amish Village has lost control > of > > > its young folk. And what are they doing with paintball guns anyway? > Amish > > > people are supposed to disdain technology and frivolity. A paintball gun > > > qualifies as both. Come to think of it, they're supposed to eschew fun, > > too, > > > the Amish. Like throwing tomatoes at cars, a fun activity, would be > > verboten > > > for them. So basically, you've got Amish Youth Out of Control, Amish > > > Delinquents Terrorizing Tourists, Amish Culture Ruined By Paintball > > > Influence, Amish Tomato Throwers Break God's Law, Stew in Hell. Someone > > had > > > to stop them. The shooter probably saved the village and kept the other > > > juvenile delinquents involved from going to hell. At least, it would be > > fun > > > to argue that in court. Hopefully the other Steven King-like attributes > of > > > the case will eclipse the paintball-is-baaaad angle. Fuckin' Amish, > > anyway. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "Ah, be careful what you say. Or you'll give yourself away. Odds are you > > > won't live to see tomorrow." > > > --- Johnny Rivers > > > "Chitterling" <chitterling_gritskisser@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > news:e8b7f323.0309040757.7f9125b3@posting.google.c om... > > > > Ohio Amish Community Shaken by Shooting > > > > Thu Sep 4, 2:55 AM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo! > > > > > > > > > > > > By JOE MILICIA, Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > MOUNT HOPE, Ohio - It's an annual prank in this tranquil Amish > > > > community, where men wear straw hats and women bonnets and plain > > > > dresses: Youngsters hide in cornfields and hurl tomatoes at passing > > > > cars. > > > > > > > > This year, the mischief turned deadly. > > > > > > > > A motorist who had been pelted several times on Labor Day got out of > > > > his car and fired three to five rounds into the 7-foot-high corn, > > > > killing 23-year-old Steven L. Keim. > > > > > > > > No arrest has been made. > > > > > > > > Residents are reeling from shock, unable to understand why anybody > > > > would retaliate so violently. Authorities say the county hadn't seen a > > > > firearm-related homicide in about three decades. > > > > > > > > "The prank has gone on for years and years," said Marty Yoder, who > > > > owns Marty's Shoes in this town about 60 miles south of Cleveland. > > > > "All over the county it's been happening every year." > > > > > > > > > > > > The shooting occurred just north of Mount Hope in Holmes County, where > > > > the clip-clop of horses pulling Amish buggies is just as common as the > > > > sound of passing automobiles. > > > > > > > > > > > > Holmes County has what is believed to be the world's largest > > > > population of Amish, who do not believe in modern conveniences such as > > > > electricity and automobiles. > > > > > > > > > > > > Keim, 23, an Apple Creek resident of Amish heritage, died of multiple > > > > wounds to the chest, Holmes County Coroner Robert Anthony said. > > > > > > > > > > > > Keim was with about 10 other members of the Amish community, ages 15 > > > > to 23. The group told the sheriff's office they had been throwing > > > > tomatoes and firing paintball guns at passing vehicles. > > > > > > > > > > > > The crime scene is marked by trampled corn stalks that interrupt an > > > > otherwise uniform stretch roadside corn. About eight rows into the > > > > cornfield, well hidden from the road, two buckets of rotting, > > > > fly-covered tomatoes still sat. > > > > > > > > > > > > According to the sheriff's department, the driver of a Lincoln or > > > > Cadillac stopped, got out and threatened to shoot whoever threw the > > > > tomatoes Monday night. > > > > > > > > > > > > The vehicle turned around and drove past the cornfield again. The car > > > > was struck with tomatoes a second time. > > > > > > > > > > > > About 25 minutes later the vehicle passed the cornfield two more > > > > times. On a third pass, the driver stopped and challenged the group to > > > > throw more tomatoes - then fired his shotgun into the cornfield. > > > > > > > > > > > > The sheriff's department did not have a suspect, only a vague > > > > description of a middle-aged male of medium height. > > > > > > > > > > > > Residents say the community will be nervous until the shooter is > > > > caught. > > > > > > > > > > > > "People won't be resting too good until they know who it is at least," > > > > said Ivan Miller, 41. "He should be punished. The guy lost it." > > > > > > > > > > > > Wayne Miller, an Amish man from nearby Kidron, said the young people > > > > "shouldn't have been throwing tomatoes." > > > > > > > > "But if people start shooting people for throwing tomatoes, this > > > > country's in bad shape," he said. > > > > > > > > Keim was born into an Amish family, but his family left the Amish > > > > church and became Mennonites, said Yoder. > > > > > > > > Mennonites share similar beliefs with the Amish, but drive cars and > > > > use more modern conveniences. > > > > > > > > "He was a real outgoing person, always willing to help you," Yoder > > > > said > > > > > > > > if you were amish, what would the first three things you'd do as soon as > you > > turned 18. > > > > 1. Get the **** out of there > > 2. Drink like a fucking fish/Do as many drugs as possible > > 3. Have as much fun as humanly possible. > > > > > > "vercingetorix" <x@starband.net> wrote in message > > news:5FN5b.1111$jF.15980637@twister1.starband.net. .. > > > While there's no paintjob worth shooting someone over, keep in mind, > these > > > were AMISH vandals. Amish. Where do Amish people get off throwing > tomatoes > > > at the rest of us? Sounds to me like the Amish Village has lost control > of > > > its young folk. And what are they doing with paintball guns anyway? > Amish > > > people are supposed to disdain technology and frivolity. A paintball gun > > > qualifies as both. Come to think of it, they're supposed to eschew fun, > > too, > > > the Amish. Like throwing tomatoes at cars, a fun activity, would be > > verboten > > > for them. So basically, you've got Amish Youth Out of Control, Amish > > > Delinquents Terrorizing Tourists, Amish Culture Ruined By Paintball > > > Influence, Amish Tomato Throwers Break God's Law, Stew in Hell. Someone > > had > > > to stop them. The shooter probably saved the village and kept the other > > > juvenile delinquents involved from going to hell. At least, it would be > > fun > > > to argue that in court. Hopefully the other Steven King-like attributes > of > > > the case will eclipse the paintball-is-baaaad angle. Fuckin' Amish, > > anyway. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "Ah, be careful what you say. Or you'll give yourself away. Odds are you > > > won't live to see tomorrow." > > > --- Johnny Rivers > > > "Chitterling" <chitterling_gritskisser@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > news:e8b7f323.0309040757.7f9125b3@posting.google.c om... > > > > Ohio Amish Community Shaken by Shooting > > > > Thu Sep 4, 2:55 AM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo! > > > > > > > > > > > > By JOE MILICIA, Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > MOUNT HOPE, Ohio - It's an annual prank in this tranquil Amish > > > > community, where men wear straw hats and women bonnets and plain > > > > dresses: Youngsters hide in cornfields and hurl tomatoes at passing > > > > cars. > > > > > > > > This year, the mischief turned deadly. > > > > > > > > A motorist who had been pelted several times on Labor Day got out of > > > > his car and fired three to five rounds into the 7-foot-high corn, > > > > killing 23-year-old Steven L. Keim. > > > > > > > > No arrest has been made. > > > > > > > > Residents are reeling from shock, unable to understand why anybody > > > > would retaliate so violently. Authorities say the county hadn't seen a > > > > firearm-related homicide in about three decades. > > > > > > > > "The prank has gone on for years and years," said Marty Yoder, who > > > > owns Marty's Shoes in this town about 60 miles south of Cleveland. > > > > "All over the county it's been happening every year." > > > > > > > > > > > > The shooting occurred just north of Mount Hope in Holmes County, where > > > > the clip-clop of horses pulling Amish buggies is just as common as the > > > > sound of passing automobiles. > > > > > > > > > > > > Holmes County has what is believed to be the world's largest > > > > population of Amish, who do not believe in modern conveniences such as > > > > electricity and automobiles. > > > > > > > > > > > > Keim, 23, an Apple Creek resident of Amish heritage, died of multiple > > > > wounds to the chest, Holmes County Coroner Robert Anthony said. > > > > > > > > > > > > Keim was with about 10 other members of the Amish community, ages 15 > > > > to 23. The group told the sheriff's office they had been throwing > > > > tomatoes and firing paintball guns at passing vehicles. > > > > > > > > > > > > The crime scene is marked by trampled corn stalks that interrupt an > > > > otherwise uniform stretch roadside corn. About eight rows into the > > > > cornfield, well hidden from the road, two buckets of rotting, > > > > fly-covered tomatoes still sat. > > > > > > > > > > > > According to the sheriff's department, the driver of a Lincoln or > > > > Cadillac stopped, got out and threatened to shoot whoever threw the > > > > tomatoes Monday night. > > > > > > > > > > > > The vehicle turned around and drove past the cornfield again. The car > > > > was struck with tomatoes a second time. > > > > > > > > > > > > About 25 minutes later the vehicle passed the cornfield two more > > > > times. On a third pass, the driver stopped and challenged the group to > > > > throw more tomatoes - then fired his shotgun into the cornfield. > > > > > > > > > > > > The sheriff's department did not have a suspect, only a vague > > > > description of a middle-aged male of medium height. > > > > > > > > > > > > Residents say the community will be nervous until the shooter is > > > > caught. > > > > > > > > > > > > "People won't be resting too good until they know who it is at least," > > > > said Ivan Miller, 41. "He should be punished. The guy lost it." > > > > > > > > > > > > Wayne Miller, an Amish man from nearby Kidron, said the young people > > > > "shouldn't have been throwing tomatoes." > > > > > > > > "But if people start shooting people for throwing tomatoes, this > > > > country's in bad shape," he said. > > > > > > > > Keim was born into an Amish family, but his family left the Amish > > > > church and became Mennonites, said Yoder. > > > > > > > > Mennonites share similar beliefs with the Amish, but drive cars and > > > > use more modern conveniences. > > > > > > > > "He was a real outgoing person, always willing to help you," Yoder > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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[8] Posted by Jose 09-04-2003, 08:06 PM |
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I can't remember where I read it, but research done with the Amish indicates that there are two main complementary factors that allow them to survive as a very anacronistic sub-culture. 1.) Peer pressure - When asked how they maintain order the most common answer given was peer pressure. It creates a fear that keeps the members of the society in line and prevents their youth from living outside their societal norms. 2.) Social group size - The size of a community is limited to around 150 (iirc). By limiting the size of their communities, they know each and every member of their community by name and face. Because they all know each other by name and face, it makes it easier to maintain the aforementioned peer pressure. If they grew bigger than that, then anonymity would give some sense of safety when they broke a rule. When their communities grow to the pre-determined size, the elder children are encouraged to leave and found new communities. It's interesting to note that you see the same sort of behavior in other great apes, like jungle gorillas. They chase members away when their groups grow to about 50 (again iirc). Jose "vercingetorix" <x@starband.net> wrote in message news:ITO5b.10245$eR6.3663055995@twister2.starband. net... > Yeah but that's us. In fact, most of the Amish don't quit. I have no special > knowledge on the subject, I just think more of them stick to the Old Ways > than break out in to The World. Otherwise, there wouldn't be any of them > left. I think if they had any natural inclination to book the villages would > be empty by now. But they shouldn't get to have these little concessions. > You're either Amish or your not. Either you're in, which means no fun of any > kind (no paintball guns, , no Gameboy, no radio, no modern ANYTHING, no > CocaCola, no penecillin, no highways [take your lame fucking horse and buggy > on YOUR OWN road]) or you're OUT and I mean drive a H |
