otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com wrote in message news:<t3j8hv4oggrinr8cl41pdvrm7tentn8e92@4ax.com>. ..
> On 15 Jul 2003 11:39:26 -0700, pvos58@yahoo.com (Peter Vos) wrote:
>
> >Tazmanian Weasel <zeppnospam@finestplanet.com> wrote in message news:<sm58hvsj2hkb2an2bqhhu34v845s97ckdt@4ax.com>. ..
> >> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:14:59 -0400, otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 15 Jul 2003 07:03:11 -0700, mogulah@hotmail.com (Transition Zone)
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>FACT: bush admits lying
> >> >
> >> >Nope. He didn't lie.
> >> >
> >> >Please state one lie GWB made here:
> >>
> >> "Weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq"
> >>
> >> in meeting with EU, May.
> >
> >or
> >
> >"I'm the kind of person that likes to
> >know all the facts before I make a decision."
> >
> >July 3, 2003
> >
> Funny,
>
> What President Bush actually said was *The British government has
> learned* [emphasis added] that Saddam Hussein recently sought
> significant quantities of uranium from Africa." But for some strange
> reason, the DNC left out that whole "British government" part. Gee,
> that changes the entire nature of the president's statement. You don't
> think the DNC left it out on purpose, do you?


The only trouble was that the White House knew at the time that the
British Government (and indeed every other government involved) had
"learned" it from the same dubious source as had the US.

This is called dissembling, or in more common parlance, lying. The
British government didn't point out either their "learning" that it
was unreliable information.

What is interesting is that the use of this method of telling a lie
with a ready-made defence--citing someone else citing something you
have no faith in --marks in time the latest moment you can deny
knowing it wasn't true. After all, if you believe it to be true, why
not simply say so? If you have to attribute the story to someone else
to protect yourself from being accused of telling stories you know
aren't true, then that moment shows that you were KNOWINGLY allowing
to go forward something you knew to be false protected only by a
semantic figleaf.

Well Bush's figleaf isn't big enough. He's no "Statue of David". And
Ari Fleischer aint no Michelangelo. His pubes are sticking out all
over this one.

PE